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Re: Lets Talk About Breaking Kayfabe in 2015. Where Do We Draw The Line?

The only time kayfabe is important to me is when it is happening on the screen. I don't care if the WWE superstars are buddies backstage, I don't care if Lana and Rusev decide to get married backstage [although I am super happy for them!], none of that matters to me. But calling WWE superstars by their real names in their promos, and bringing backstage politics out into the open as well as breaking their rivalry in order to hug and celebrate is really annoying!

WWE supserstars should be allowed to have lives and hobbies outside of WWE programming. I love Xavier Wood's youtube channel, and that breaks kayfabe all the time.

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Kayfabe only belongs on the show.

Being in character 24/7 is beyond retarded and mainly the reason why professional wrestling got zero respect.

Don't see the cast of Walking Dead being all bloody and dirty between shows.
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If it seeps into the real world with moments like Rc Flair and Edge retiring. Then those are A-OK times to break kayfabe. Even if it was being televised.
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The Four Horsewoman thing bothered me but I let it go, the Rusev/Lana thing surprisingly didn't bother me because the feud was pretty much done & WWE has involved real life stuff before.

But that Luke Harper crap crossed the line, what in the entire fuck Jericho?

I mean this is really what they wanna do to the business? Just really disrespectful.
What are they doing to the business? You know they are actors who are playing characters and that they don't really hate each other. It's not going to show up on WWE programming and nobody who wasn't already a smark overexposed to the workings of the business would've even seen that picture, so whst does it hurt?

Sounds like more "wah, WWE is ruining wrestling" faux outrage to me.

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What are they doing to the business? You know they are actors who are playing characters and that they don't really hate each other. It's not going to show up on WWE programming and nobody who wasn't already a smark overexposed to the workings of the business would've even seen that picture, so whst does it hurt?

Sounds like more "wah, WWE is ruining wrestling" faux outrage to me.

At Roman's Q & A down here, a little kid asked him if he and Bray were friends in real life, and he paused, looked like a deer in headlights for a few seconds while the smart fans shouted "KAYFABE!!!" and then gave a roundabout answer, saying they all have respect for what each other do in the business. If off screen stuff weren't an issue, he wouldn't have to respond like that to a child who still somewhat believes what he sees on TV.



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The only time kayfabe is important to me is when it is happening on the screen. I don't care if the WWE superstars are buddies backstage, I don't care if Lana and Rusev decide to get married backstage [although I am super happy for them!], none of that matters to me. But calling WWE superstars by their real names in their promos, and bringing backstage politics out into the open as well as breaking their rivalry in order to hug and celebrate is really annoying!

WWE supserstars should be allowed to have lives and hobbies outside of WWE programming. I love Xavier Wood's youtube channel, and that breaks kayfabe all the time.
Yes, but you would never see Xavier doing a show with Bubba or D-Von while they're feuding. That's the main problem. Imagine if Kane & Rollins took a selfie together.
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Kayfabe only belongs on the show.

Being in character 24/7 is beyond retarded and mainly the reason why professional wrestling got zero respect.

Don't see the cast of Walking Dead being all bloody and dirty between shows.
Yes, but until WWE OFFICIALLY eradicates kayfabe, it needs to be kept to a certain extent. They're too wishy washy with it. Either do it or don't.
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I couldn't give a shit's fuck. Kayfabe breaking is the least of WWE's problems with the product. It's 2015 and even the shitwit kids know it's fake.
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Yes, but until WWE OFFICIALLY eradicates kayfabe, it needs to be kept to a certain extent. They're too wishy washy with it. Either do it or don't.
If its strictly in show, it's fine to keep kayfabe because its still telling stories, but we as fans really need to let that shit go.

There's a reason why ESPN can finally do interviews with wrestlers, no goofy ass character to maintain. No insulting anyone's intelligence. It was always silly to pretend this shit was real and just made a lot of old guys lives more difficult than it had to be.
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I'm all for kayfabe, I wish it was still emphasized in the business. I know a lot of people are harping on talents these days for not even making the slightest effort to adhere to it, but honestly I think the blame has to lie with the higher ups at WWE. They're constantly sending out mixed messages. You have the guys do media appearances just as regular people, but you send out Bray Wyatt to play his character. They want everyone to be on twitter, instagram, all over the internet to engage with fans. So they want some people to be real and accessible, but they want other people to kayfabe twitter. And they construct all these weird 'twitter wars' between feuding wrestlers, but if someone genuinely gets into a bit of beef with someone over twitter they get all angry and say 'no you can't do that'. It's all bullshit, none of it makes any sense whatsoever. Now you have Xavier Wood's playing video games on youtube where goes by 'Austin Creed' which isn't his WWE name, it isn't his real name, it's his TNA name which I'm amazed no one has twigged onto that yet and gotten angry with him. So you already have Rusev on the video game show just being a real person and not a 'Bulgarian Brute' so hadn't he already killed his kayfabe character?

I know I've carried on a bit, but really my biggest point of contention regarding the whole Rusev thing and the thing that is most stupid to me is that as far as I'm aware, when they were first paired together in Florida, they weren't dating. Them dating and becoming a couple was a happy coincidence that gave the pairing more chemistry and more gravitas. They were great together and formed a fantastic act that was pushed well and got over on the main roster. So why the hell did you break them up to begin with? Why potentially ruin a fantastic act like that? If you believe certain rumblings on the internet, at worst it was a conscious effort to break them up and at best it was just an attempt to mess with people's heads. Whatever the case, it was completely stupid and it's completely unreasonable to ask of a couple to never be seen together in public because we wrote a stupid storyline about you breaking up.

TL;DR: Vince is a prick.
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Their social media accounts are work accounts, most just have private accounts for friends and family.
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