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View Poll Results: Who Walks Out of Hell in a Cell as the Universal Champion?
Seth Rollins 29 42.65%
Bray Wyatt 39 57.35%
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Wow, that was like 12 years ago. That's a long time to be watching something that makes you miserable dude. Didn't Kennedy fuck himself out of that push anyway? If I remember correctly, wasn't Vince super high on him, but Kennedy kept getting injured and had backstage heat?

Kennedy was alright, good talker. The guys you mark for now are much better than him though imo.
First off, I practically don't watch now. I only watch clips on YouTube. I don't watch Raw or SmackDown live. I don't do it. I watch clips of things I care about.

I watch anything Asuka does, anything. Win, lose, draw, push, embarrassment, anything. Anything, anything, anything. She's never on tv. That's gone.

I watch all of Bray Wyatts stuff. I watch those clips.

I watch Owens and Joe sometimes, and sometimes I don't. If they're doing something I don't care about, I won't watch it. If they're cutting a promo, I'll probably watch it. I didn't watch that KOTR match with Corbin and Ricochet, I didn't watch Owens ref the Shane/Gable, etc.

I will watch if there's a major fuck up or embarrassment or hilarious burial, like Mike Kanellis getting called a beta cuck.

The rest of the show I never watch. I'm not watching AJ Styles do a bunch of trash, I'm not watching Becky, I'm not watching the Roman/Bryan angle, I'm not watching Kofis reign.

Secondly, yes, he did screw up his push, but you know what? He wasn't the first guy, he won't be the last. Vince has pushed other guys after that, so I still hold him responsible. I would've pushed him after that, no matter how mad I was. Entertainment takes precedence. Before the screw up, he was going to win the world title, but he was misdianosed by an IDIOT doctor and had to drop the MITB. If he was diagnosed properly, he wins the world title the night after he dropped it to Edge and this never happens.

The reason I haven't completely given up on wrestling is because I love the art form of wrestling WHEN DONE RIGHT. I love it. There are a few people I like, who still do it right, and fuck tons of people who don't, and the people who don't know how to do wrestling are the winners, and they're the losers, but they still entertain me, and I want to see the rare successes they get. Also, the Observer shows are too funny for me to give up. That is a major part of it.


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First off, I practically don't watch now. I only watch clips on YouTube. I don't watch Raw or SmackDown live. I don't do it. I watch clips of things I care about.
You and I both brother.

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I watch anything Asuka does, anything. Win, lose, draw, push, embarrassment, anything. Anything, anything, anything. She's never on tv. That's gone.
Do you ever watch any of her old stuff? I went down an Asuka rabbit hole on the network about a month ago. Watched about 5 of her NXT matches and her TLC and Rumble match with Becky. The match with Bayley and the TLC match with Becky and Charlotte were absolutely fantastic. The Nikki Cross match too, fuck me that was great. She's probably my 2nd favourite worker to watch in the entire company, I love her style.

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I watch all of Bray Wyatts stuff. I watch those clips.
Who doesn't? He's the best.

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I watch Owens and Joe sometimes, and sometimes I don't. If they're doing something I don't care about, I won't watch it. If they're cutting a promo, I'll probably watch it. I didn't watch that KOTR match with Corbin and Ricochet, I didn't watch Owens ref the Shane/Gable, etc.
The KO/Shane stuff has been fucking painful. Joe seems directionless based on the youtube videos.

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I will watch if there's a major fuck up or embarrassment or hilarious burial, like Mike Kanellis getting called a beta cuck.
I let Bryan Alvarez describe it for me. Is it as bad as it sounds lol?

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The rest of the show I never watch. I'm not watching AJ Styles do a bunch of trash, I'm not watching Becky, I'm not watching the Roman/Bryan angle, I'm not watching Kofis reign.
Becky's promo's have been GREAT for about 2 months now. Roman/Bryan has been entertaining in part. The 2 vintners was the highlight.

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Secondly, yes, he did screw up his push, but you know what? He wasn't the first guy, he won't be the last. Vince has pushed other guys after that, so I still hold him responsible. I would've pushed him after that, no matter how mad I was. Entertainment takes precedence. Before the screw up, he was going to win the world title, but he was misdianosed by an IDIOT doctor and had to drop the MITB. If he was diagnosed properly, he wins the world title the night after he dropped it to Edge and this never happens.
Damn, I didn't know that. I wonder if it was the same doctor who tried to kill Punk Was it Meltzer who said he was winning the title? Because he said the same about Eddie and Batista came out years later and said it was Orton who was winning the belt from him.

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The reason I haven't completely given up on wrestling is because I love the art form of wrestling WHEN DONE RIGHT. I love it. There are a few people I like, who still do it right, and fuck tons of people who don't, and the people who don't know how to do wrestling are the winners, and they're the losers, but they still entertain me, and I want to see the rare successes they get. Also, the Observer shows are too funny for me to give up. That is a major part of it.
Fair enough. At least you've has some successes over the last few years, accidental or not. Asuka, Bray, KO and Ambrose all got runs with the belt. Not the runs they deserved, but runs nontheless.

The observer is awesome, especially Bryan. B&V and Filthy 4 are awesome. Dave is alright, he can sometimes be unintentionally hilarious.

Bryan: "So let's talk about this Raw show"

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Bryan: "So Raw...."


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Re: Seth Rollins vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt (Universal Championship: Hell in a Cell Match) - Hell in a Cell

Seth's walking out of HIAC still the champion. Whether he beats Wyatt or there is some controversial finish remains to be seen, but he isn't losing to Wyatt.

You have to understand, WWE has this "con artist" way of booking; the logical reason is that Wyatt should win, which means that he won't.
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Re: Seth Rollins vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt (Universal Championship: Hell in a Cell Match) - Hell in a Cell

Rollins win but it's a screwy finish as to still protect Fiend.

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This is why the HIAC PPV format is FUCKING STUPID.

They just keep constantly placing themselves in no-win situations just by whacking a gigantic cage over the ring just because it’s ‘that time of year’. The intrigue is lost and now because of the stipulation, you either wreck one of your talents or you keep damaging the reputation of one of the most feared (ha, well not anymore) match formats of all time. Same thing happened with Punk/Ryback in 2012. I mean, how the fuck do you *start* a rivalry inside HIAC.

These themed PPVs are absolute shite and are a huge reason why the company has been going down the shitter for over a decade.
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Re: Seth Rollins vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt (Universal Championship: Hell in a Cell Match) - Hell in a Cell

Kane is coming up through the ring to drag The Fiend to Hell.
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Re: Seth Rollins vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt (Universal Championship: Hell in a Cell Match) - Hell in a Cell

Just so we are clear Wyatt must walk out with the championship for his character to work.

Even if Seth hits him a with 20 stomps and Undertakers attacks Bray with a halberd just to make Bray looks strong in defeat, he will still be ruined.

Best case scenario Bray wins the belt and him and Brock have a double count out at Survivor Series.
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Re: Seth Rollins vs. "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt (Universal Championship: Hell in a Cell Match) - Hell in a Cell

Rollins is dropping as he is going to SDL with his fiance.
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Rollins is dropping as he is going to SDL with his fiance.
That's a lot of credit to automatically assume of a madman.

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Just so we are clear Wyatt must walk out with the championship for his character to work.

Even if Seth hits him a with 20 stomps and Undertakers attacks Bray with a halberd just to make Bray looks strong in defeat, he will still be ruined.

Best case scenario Bray wins the belt and him and Brock have a double count out at Survivor Series.
The best possible scenario would be him beating Brock. Brock can lose, who gives a fuck? He's old hat. A double countout would be acceptable, though.


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Rollins still champ, Undertaker vs The Fiend at Wrestlemania.
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