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post #51 of 112 (permalink) Old 07-31-2019, 03:02 AM
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Re: Orton showing the geeks how to cut a promo segment

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Yeah it was just a pretaped segment even hacks can do em.
Hangman Page and Shawn Spears sure as hell can't lol.

Orton can cut a good promo when he tries.
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Re: Orton showing the geeks how to cut a promo segment

It's not a secret that he's that damn great. Internet marks are the ones who are in denial about it. Hell, they even thought that Rollins cuts a good promo before he became the fotc too.

Also props on WWE too. No matter how sucks their product but you can't deny their production is great consistently.
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GOAT Orton showing the geeks how it's done.
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Re: Orton showing the geeks how to cut a promo segment

What geeks are you referring to? If your talking about Ricochet, then yeah, in a pretape, Orton cut a better promo than Ricochet, congrats.

Joe, Owens, Daniel Bryan even Ali's pretapes have been alright. I liked the video package, I'm praying to fucking god Orton ends this atrocious Kofi title reign, but let's not get it twisted, if you look at Wrestling as a whole, outside of WWE included, Orton literally isn't even in the top 30 promo guys.
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I totally get what you're saying, but this is the only scraps of anything decent WWE has thrown our way in a long time so I'm soaking it in. You have "talent" backstage who couldn't cut convincing pre-taped segment promo to save their lives.. So, even though it's pre-taped, Orton is showing his experience here and owns it. There isn't much WWE offers to get excited about and this is one of those rare gems WWE managed to actually do right, and no surprise it's Orton..

As someone else mentioned. When Orton gives a shit he's hard to touch.





No they can't.. They're usually fucking atrociously embarrassing.
To be fair when does Vince give people something with substance to work with? There's no continuity only when it's convenient. You need substance to be a great promo. The only reason why this promo was any decent was cause he had material. You honestly think this would be great if he didn't bring up the 09 stuff?

That's this entire feud. I held you down in 2009 cause you weren't ready. I still don't think you are ready, I'm going to take your title and prove your a loser. Hardly amazing. Randy has cut much better promos.

It was just a fancier I want your title promo dressed up with history. The delivery was on point so I'll praise it for that but his capable of much better

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Not everyone can do this, you have to have an edge to it. If Kofi, and tbh, a bulk of the roster, cut some shit like this it wouldn't mean jack to me.
Kofi literally cut a promo with edge last week? His actually as good as randy on the mic, but people don't focus on that cause of the new day. He cut a passionate serious promo while destroying randys legacy car in 2009.

Kofis not the rock or Austin but his not a shit promo at all his again like randy above average

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Hangman Page and Shawn Spears sure as hell can't lol.

Orton can cut a good promo when he tries.
Page is on randys level of promo ability. Randy isn't god tier on the mic but his not awful. All 3 of them are average promos with the ability to cut the odd above average promo if the material is good.

Again it's not hard to speak in front of a camera the average person can do it quite competently. You and I could both cut the exact same pretaped promo I'm sure.
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Page is on randys level of promo ability. Randy isn't god tier on the mic but his not awful. All 3 of them are average promos with the ability to cut the odd above average promo if the material is good.

Again it's not hard to speak in front of a camera the average person can do it quite competently. You and I could both cut the exact same pretaped promo I'm sure.
No he's not. They won't even hand him a mic in front of an audience because he freezes up into a block of ice. They had Jericho do Page's promo for him at FFTF lol.

Page has a confidence issue. He can't let his guard down in front of crowds. Orton doesn't have that. Some people just hate his monotone delivery.
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No he's not. They won't even hand him a mic in front of an audience because he freezes up into a block of ice. They had Jericho do Page's promo for him at FFTF lol.

Page has a confidence issue. He can't let his guard down in front of crowds. Orton doesn't have that. Some people just hate his monotone delivery.
That's my point though. You'd expect randy to have good delivery by now given his experience. And given who he came up under (hunter and flair) even bats was once a shit promo.

If you have confidence you should be an average to above average promo. The promos both randy and Kofi have cut in this program have been above average promos.

But randys promo was meant to hype up the match, and it failed. Even if the delivery is on point I'm 90 percent certain Orton is winning. Summerslam is kinda like randys wrestlemania he almost always wins championships there.

Compare this promo to spud and kanelis last week. I actively avoid kanelis unless his facing someone fantastic like akira and spuds been nothing but a jester. But because of 1 promo I tuned in and was screaming for Mike to win.

I don't have that same inclination with the WWE championship feud.
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Give this man the title. He's the star we need.

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It's not a secret that he's that damn great. Internet marks are the ones who are in denial about it. Hell, they even thought that Rollins cuts a good promo before he became the fotc too.

Also props on WWE too. No matter how sucks their product but you can't deny their production is great consistently.
Dude I dont want to sound like a mark here, but one of the main draws to WWE has been their production quality to me. Dunn belongs in the HOF for some of the shit he has done.




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Orton feels like a true main event talent. Kofi doesn't. It's that simple.

The problem is, they're likely to have Kofi go over.
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