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Re: Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans (Raw Woman's Championship)

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Makes no sense. Becky beat her clean by submission and Lacey hasn't won a match since.

At least have her win a #1 contender match or something



Becky retains all day long here. There's no way they are putting the belt on Lacey after her performances in the ring so far. She makes Carmella look like Shawn Michaels.
"There's no way", and yet, every week, we say the product can't get worse, and it always gets worse.

There's CLEARLY a way.
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Re: Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans (Raw Woman's Championship)

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"There's no way", and yet, every week, we say the product can't get worse, and it always gets worse.

There's CLEARLY a way.
Fair enough.

Wouldn't surprise me now that I think about it. This is the company who put the women's titles on Nia Jax and Carmella at the same time so they clearly don't care about how bad or dangerous the women are in the ring.

Lacey had a minus 5 star match with Charlotte fucking Flair though, like I didn't even think that was possible, so she takes the cake. Even Mandy Rose, as bad as she is, had at least a 1 star match with Asuka.
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You say "Charlotte fucking Flair" like she's Asuka or Kairi Sane. In reality, Charlotte is an above average worker for a bad womens division, but in reality, very average. In a real womens division, she'd be a run of the mill worker or maybe even below average.

However, even in saying that, nobody should have a match THAT bad with her. I'm in complete agreement that Lacey is the worst wrestler in the entire company and it isn't even fucking close. And I don't restrict that to just in ring work. Lacey is worse than present day Undertaker.


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You say "Charlotte fucking Flair" like she's Asuka or Kairi Sane. In reality, Charlotte is an above average worker for a bad womens division, but in reality, very average. In a real womens division, she'd be a run of the mill worker or maybe even below average.

However, even in saying that, nobody should have a match THAT bad with her. I'm in complete agreement that Lacey is the worst wrestler in the entire company and it isn't even fucking close. And I don't restrict that to just in ring work. Lacey is worse than present day Undertaker.
Well women's wrestling in Japan is well ahead of the West, probably by a couple of decades. Charlotte is easily the best non-Japanese women's wrestler in the company. I agree that she'd probably be average to below average in Japan though yeah. WWE's womens division is pretty bad in terms of in ring ability, I mean who else is even good? Sasha can be, but she botches all the time, Bayley I guess? Ember is pretty good, Becky is only good in gimmick matches, Naomi can be fun to watch but she's not a good wrestler, Natalya is boring as shit, Shayna is boring as shit. They really are a million miles away from Japan.

Yeah she's pretty damn bad, her matches with Becky and Bayley were not good at all, but they were acceptable for television. The match with Charlotte was other worldly bad, I don't know what the fuck happened there. Charlotte MUST have been giving no fucks, because there's no way THAT was the best she could get out of her.



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Re: Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans (Raw Woman's Championship)

Lacey's match with Becky at MITB was better than Becky/Charlotte. The hate for Lacey on here is some of the most hyperbolic shit I've ever seen. Are we really pretending Charlotte and Becky can work after they shit the bed at WM? They have years of main roster experience under their belt and they are still below average workers. Lacey has them beat handily in mic skills, charisma and character work which are far more important traits than ring work in a company where the word wrestling is banned.

If ring work mattered neither Becky nor Charlotte would be at the top of the division. They would be hiring women who can actually work. Asuka could barely get a 3 star match out of Becky
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Lacey's match with Becky at MITB was better than Becky/Charlotte. The hate for Lacey on here is some of the most hyperbolic shit I've ever seen. Are we really pretending Charlotte and Becky can work after they shit the bed at WM? They have years of main roster experience under their belt and they are still below average workers. Lacey has them beat handily in mic skills, charisma and character work which are far more important traits than ring work in a company where the word wrestling is banned.

If ring work mattered neither Becky nor Charlotte would be at the top of the division. They would be hiring women who can actually work. Asuka could barely get a 3 star match out of Becky
It's all subjective isn't it. You're a fan of Lacey, it's cool. I think Becky/Lacey was better than Becky/Charlotte too, both weren't great though. Becky's wrestling has been bad for a while. She can still work a match to an acceptable level though, I just don't think Lacey is ready yet.

I disagree that Lacey has more charisma than Becky. I just don't see it. Becky has had a connection with the crowd since day one, she's always drawn people to her and been one of their most over women, even during her jobber days. Lacey is struggling to get any reaction whatsoever despite working with the top women in the division every week. I haven't heard much of her promo work, so I can't comment on that. I don't like Becky's babyface promos, her delivery is usually ok though. Charlotte's promos are usually pretty bad. Maybe Lacey is better, I don't know. Becky's heel promos late last year were excellent, I doubt Lacey is touching them. The only Lacey Evans promo I've seen was the one on moment of Bliss before the Rumble, it was pretty bad. I've heard she's gotten better since then though.



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Re: Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans (Raw Woman's Championship)

Becky had an, ok match with Lacey at MITB to be fair, and Lacey had some, alright, matches with Kairi Sane in NXT. So while she's hardly impressive enough to make the push that she's getting convincing, she also doesn't completely stink up the joint every single time either.

For whatever reason, her and Charlotte just didn't mesh well together. But yes, it really doesn't make any sense that she gets another title match after losing clean to Becky via submission in like 10 minutes on the last PPV. And losing to Bayley and Charlotte as well. WWE often doesn't even TRY to have an in-kayfabe justification for performers getting title shots anymore.

The funny thing is, they DID do that the first time around by having her win a #1 contenders match with Nattie. But here, nope she just gets another title shot because, Vince likes her I guess.
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Well women's wrestling in Japan is well ahead of the West, probably by a couple of decades. Charlotte is easily the best non-Japanese women's wrestler in the company. I agree that she'd probably be average to below average in Japan though yeah. WWE's womens division is pretty bad in terms of in ring ability, I mean who else is even good? Sasha can be, but she botches all the time, Bayley I guess? Ember is pretty good, Becky is only good in gimmick matches, Naomi can be fun to watch but she's not a good wrestler, Natalya is boring as shit, Shayna is boring as shit. They really are a million miles away from Japan.

Yeah she's pretty damn bad, her matches with Becky and Bayley were not good at all, but they were acceptable for television. The match with Charlotte was other worldly bad, I don't know what the fuck happened there. Charlotte MUST have been giving no fucks, because there's no way THAT was the best she could get out of her.
Charlotte sucks, but so do most white female wrestlers.
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Not really. Tessa Blanchard for example is fucking awesome.
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I really wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte interferes in this match and causes a DQ.

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