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post #21 of 27 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 05:29 PM
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More expensive now than cable if you want to watch everything available (including all originals) legally Let's see:

Netflix: 8 (if you don't get their HD which is just stupid)
Hulu: 6
Amazon: 9
CBS: 6
HBO Now: 15

I'm sure I've missed a few. Of course, if you're a gamer, then you have all the game-streaming services popping up as well. Most games are adopting a model of pay-to-play and eventually will move away from selling you actual copies of games and you just "rent" them.

None of these include Sports, News etc. So most people *have* to get at least basic Cable for sports. Which is usually 25-50 bucks.

We're already at around 69-70 bucks a month. And this doesn't include the cost of internet itself (usually about $60-100 bucks) and internet bandwidth for a lot of people who have to literally pick and choose how much they can stream (not everyone has unlimited plans).

It's getting to that tricky area where they want you to have all three: Cable, Streaming and the Internet and on top of that, they still have advertising revenue from traditional TV as well as expensive business contracts.

It's not gonna get any better, only worse imo. I think give or take a couple of years, the streaming landscape will be very different to what it is now - and a lot more people will start streaming illegally again.

They're killing themselves with their own greed :
You're doing it wrong or you just like to pay for shit if you have subs to all of it. CBS has maybe one show. Not worth it. HBO has the best shows overall, though recently it's been bad. Netflix has tons of garbage; you should only sub to Netflix when it has something you like. Then you cancel. Hulu doesn't even count because lol @ them. Amazon is the best to keep all the time because of Prime and it also gives easy access to HBO. The HBO thing could change however. Amazon is still worth it if you use Prime for other things besides the shows and movies.

tl;dr Amazon is the best bang for your buck. They will only grow stronger once they start producing shows worth watching.
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You're doing it wrong or you just like to pay for shit if you have subs to all of it. CBS has maybe one show. Not worth it. HBO has the best shows overall, though recently it's been bad. Netflix has tons of garbage; you should only sub to Netflix when it has something you like. Then you cancel. Hulu doesn't even count because lol @ them. Amazon is the best to keep all the time because of Prime and it also gives easy access to HBO. The HBO thing could change however. Amazon is still worth it if you use Prime for other things besides the shows and movies.

tl;dr Amazon is the best bang for your buck. They will only grow stronger once they start producing shows worth watching.
Fair enough. But that only works as long as the networks stick to the current model of dumping entire seasons in 1 go. It's possible that they move away from that format, though unlikely. So I agree that that's the right way to do it. It's close to what I've been doing, but I would like to keep at least one or two major ones. I'll probably go Disney+ and Prime eventually. Netflix no longer seems worth it. If they lose any more of their non-original shows, then it's really done and they would do well to fold and sign up with one of the major companies.

Prime has become my video streaming service of choice too. I like their originals (and I find many of them to actually be superior to Netflix). But I absolutely hate their windows browser interface. Their app interface is great, but they're not releasing an app for PC which is what I primarily use in my house.


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Netflix's main problem now is their unoriginal content that they have the rights to doesn't get posted weekly, so people who actually want to watch it, turn to illegal streaming first.
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post #24 of 27 (permalink) Old 07-12-2019, 08:03 AM
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Only thing I'd want from this service is Looney Tunes and '90s Cartoon Network and I refuse to pay their asking price for that.

As others in this thread have stated, the streaming media landscape is becoming too cluttered. Consumers can only afford to pay for one or two of these things. Only a matter of time before some of these services start shutting down.

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The thing is, an exclusive content, yeah, it can be great, but the reason something like Stranger Things became big, it has eyeballs on it.
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I read somewhere that Netflix lost 35% of its content in the past 2 years and it has around 3800 shows/movies left. So I could see why they want to build their original content. But their prices have increased 2 times during this time. We also have to consider that friends and the office are the most watched shows based on yearly viewing time. People like rewatching shows in the background I guess. But both Friends and the Office will be gone in a year and a half.

Personally I made the switch from Netflix to Hulu since I enjoyed their shows more and I like the cartoon comedies they have on Hulu.
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I actually take back what I said about this being competition. It's more like mini monopolies and the impression of competition because rate setting is not based on anything except what the capitalist thinks the customer *should* pay not what the product is worth. It's mini monopolies.

If you're paying attention, you'll see that on streaming services every single movie, TV episode is individually priced at exactly the same rate (usually 2.99 per episode and 3.99 per movie) irrespective of production budget. Subscription services have no price rationale either. Netflix has increased its price from 7.99 to 15 while reducing the amount of content. A lot of content that Netflix includes in its library and charging for is available on several free to watch services.

There is no supply/demand economics at play here at all. It's all arbitrary and to me, that's inherently anti-consumer.

You could always buy the physical media version. I noticed movies in bargain bins at walmarts sell for 3-5$ now. Tv seasons are like 10-20$. Physical book sales have made a resurgence. Im not sure if Dvds or Blu rays/4k will. Torrenting though had its first increase since 2011. So the more services, and increased prices for less content will surely increase torrenting.
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