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I don't disagree. Unfortunately the massively offended idiots are the loudest voices when these things are announced.
You'd think they’d realize then these movies aren't for them and the diversity train ain't stopping. Clearly, as millions of moviegoers are pumping out big money buying into these projects. Creative forces are going to take liberties with the art in their hands. It's a trait as an artist to make such choices. It is also their duty as a business to successfully sell this art to a massive international audience which Disney has been doing successfully with these live action and photo realistic adaptations. See Beauty & The Beast, Jungle Book, Aladdin, and The Lion King. I positively predict The Little Mermaid will be a hit too.
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That's sort of a generalisation though. Not everyone cares what race a character in a film or show is (you seem to be in this camp). The only time I think the race of the actor is important is if they are playing a real person. But I guess even then you'll get some idiots moaning that someone isn't black enough or white enough to play someone.

Sadly though, these are the complaints that stick with people because they are the only people moaning. I would think that the majority of people don't give the slightest crap. They just want to watch something they are entertained by. The vocal minority in these issues are always the loudest voices unfortunately.
It's certainly not the majority who are upset by it, but people do complain about 'whitewashing' in movies pretty often, and I have a feeling they wouldn't find 'but they're fictional characters' to be a sufficient rebuttal to their complaints in those instances. I've never seen this much of a push back to people complaining about the race of a character being swapped, which is why see double standards here. There were tons of 'it's a fictional character' memes on twitter when this was the freshest of controversies a few months ago.

It's just speculation, but I cannot imagine the majority of people making that argument here would do the same if the situation was reversed.
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We all know what this movie is going to be because it will be what all the other live action Disney remakes are like: A soulless live action take on an animated film that is less enjoyable and will drag because it'll be longer than it needs to be.

See Beauty and the Beast. See Aladdin, and from what I've heard, Lion King falls into description more than any of them.

Changing the race of the Mermaid by casting a black actress is a cheap attempt from Disney to push the movie as progressive and "different", and also drum up a phony controversy to get attention on a lazily conceived film that doesn't deserve the attention in the first place.

Personally, I would have rather seen a Little Mermaid movie that was closer to the original Hans Christen Andersen story where love is hell and the Mermaid dies in the end...but no way in holy fuck Disney is doing that!
Aladdin was actually pretty solid, BATB was meh, and actually, the Jungle Book was by far the best one; that one was actually very very good.
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It's certainly not the majority who are upset by it, but people do complain about 'whitewashing' in movies pretty often, and I have a feeling they wouldn't find 'but they're fictional characters' to be a sufficient rebuttal to their complaints in those instances. I've never seen this much of a push back to people complaining about the race of a character being swapped, which is why see double standards here. There were tons of 'it's a fictional character' memes on twitter when this was the freshest of controversies a few months ago.

It's just speculation, but I cannot imagine the majority of people making that argument here would do the same if the situation was reversed.
I think we can just agree that anybody that complains about the race of any fictional character is a bit of a moron. Whether the character is black, white, green, purple, or anything else.

They will moan about the sanctity of an iconic character, but in reality they are just pushing their own racist agenda.

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Aladdin was actually pretty solid, BATB was meh, and actually, the Jungle Book was by far the best one; that one was actually very very good.
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Thanks for this. You're really moving the discussion on nicely here. Great job
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Aladdin was actually pretty solid, BATB was meh, and actually, the Jungle Book was by far the best one; that one was actually very very good.
I couldn't stand Aladdin, sorry. Outside of a couple moments here or there, I found it to be a pretty lifeless remake. Jafar sucked. The special effects were not great (my jaw dropped at how awful Genie Jafar looked). The new songs and characters were either pointless or left no impression on me, and everything that came from the original film was just less good. I actually hated Aladdin in the film. I thought he was a bit of a tool.

Jungle Book is probably the best one, but I still didn't love it. The voice acting was really good and the animation on the animals was pretty solid too, and the actor playing Mowgli interacted with them well.

However, there were some story issues that left me scratching my head. In the animated film, I love that Sher Khan was out looking for Mowgli and with all the build up for him, there was a lot of tension and the sense of dread that the two could run into each other at any moment.

In the new movie, Sher Khan takes over the Wolves' lair and waits for Mowgli to come to him. How does he even know that Mowgli will even find out about what he did? Also, at this point, Mowgli is already gone and he basically got what he wanted, so why is he doing this?

The Kaa scene also highlights everything great about the movie and everything I didn't like about it. Voice acting? Scarlett Johannsen's voice for Kaa was great, one of the few cases where gender flipping a character was a welcomed change. The special effects? Great. Mowgli's acting? Good enough. However when you think about it...why is Kaa providing a big plot dump to Mowgli? Why did Kaa become the exposition snake? In the original film, Kaa was one of several recurring threats for Mowgli. Here...she's just kind of there for one scene, provides a big plot dump, and is then gone. (At least that's how I remember it, I haven't seen the film since it came out).

To be fair though, I didn't hate the film and as far as the Disney remakes go, it is one of the only ones that didn't make me retch. At least it was a different movie and wasn't just a shameless retread of the 67 film. I didn't love it though.

I will say though, I would really like a big screen version of Rikki Tikki Tavi. He's a cute little mongoose character that kills cobras and was featured in the original Jungle Book (which is really a collection of short stories rather than one flowing narrative). Rikki was made into an animated TV special by Chuck Jones way back in the 60s and I really liked it, so I'd actually like to see Rikki Tikki Tavi get adapted and get to join the rest of the Jungle Book crew as movie stars, but that's just me, lol.

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Thanks for this. You're really moving the discussion on nicely here. Great job
I haven't read a word of your discussion in the thread, I just saw the image of the girl and post what I thought, that is what a forum is right?, if it doesn't go with what are you talking then just ignore me and go on.

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Harry Styles Passes on 'Little Mermaid' Role
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The former One Direction performer would have starred opposite 'Grown-ish' actress Halle Bailey, who is set to play Ariel.
Harry Styles will not be heading under the sea for Disney's live-action Little Mermaid.

The Dunkirk actor is no longer in talks to play Prince Eric in the Rob Marshall-directed musical, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

Grown-ish actress Halle Bailey is set to play Ariel, with Melissa McCarthy playing Ursula, Jacob Tremblay voicing Flounder and Awkwafina voicing Scuttle.

Marc Platt, who worked with Marshall on Mary Poppins Returns and executive produced Guy Ritchie's live-action Aladdin remake, is producing. Marshall and John DeLuca are also producers on Little Mermaid, as is Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he..._medium=social
Disney continues the hunt for a Prince Eric. I'd like to see a young talent like Algee Smith cast in the role. Smith would be a fine choice, good actor (Detroit, The Hate U Give) and he can sing (The New Edition Story).

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I've never cared about The Little Mermaid so this is whatever to me. Good looking girl doe

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