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Re: Stephen King's 'It: Chapter Two' (September 6, 2019)

With all the talk about perfect casting they completely forgot to find people who can act. Some of the most bland performances I have ever seen. Only Bill Hader can hold his head up.
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SPOILERS !!!!!!!


I would have cut out a lot of filler junk that wasnt needed.

To many flash backs with the kids. I would rather just a sequel using them instead of mixing it. Yeah i know the source has them as adults but whatever its not as fun.

The intro...no need for a gay couple to be gay bashed, left for dead and bitten. Waste of time and added nothing.

The personal artifact quest for each main character. Took to long, added nothing, did nothing. Waste of time. Scrap that and the entire totem/indian plot.
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Re: Stephen King's 'It: Chapter Two' (September 6, 2019)

Did anybody else feel some of the scares this time around were a bit on the goofy side?

Like the granny scene in the trailer. Great in the trailer, but then when you actually see the granny monster in the movie...yeah, I damn near spit my coke out from laughing.

There were a few other moments like that.

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Did anybody else feel some of the scares this time around were a bit on the goofy side?

Like the granny scene in the trailer. Great in the trailer, but then when you actually see the granny monster in the movie...yeah, I damn near spit my coke out from laughing.

There were a few other moments like that.
I haven't seen this movie but many horror sequels make the mistake of trying to make their scares bigger by amping up the visuals instead of sticking with more subtle horror elements.

predator 1 for example concentrated on the idea of not seeing what was stalking them in the jungle, the suspense and tension of being pursued by something. By predator 2 they just go for the violent and gory visuals that really don't have the same call for attention. I mean sure everyone knows what the predator is by the second movie but even so, removing tension and replacing it with higher action violence rarely works.

The only time I really felt like it worked was between alien and aliens but even in those movies, aliens wasnt really "scary", it was just a really good action movie. Alien 1 is still the creepier film out of the two. They simply knew they couldnt replicate it without it being worse so took the sequel in a different direction.

In most horror movies, the biggest sense of fear is generated by the build up, the sense of the unknown, once the monster gets revealed onscreen, things usually fall apart because the audience now has the visual, some might find it scary, others wont. Thats why I found blair witch project so creepy on my first viewing because it teases you with something very dark but never actually presents a visual, its just all played off your imagination.

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Re: Stephen King's 'It: Chapter Two' (September 6, 2019)

So I watched the film last night. I can understand people's frustration. For me was a bit boring because as I read the book, throughout the movie I knew what was coming, but I recognize the effort that was put to remain as faithful to the book as possible.

But then it was a horror movie where I laughed more than I got scared (which I didn't at all), and that is not supposed to happen. I think Pennywise as a monster works better when he is scaring children rather than adults so everything felt meh for me.

When Pennywise shows his true shape (in the spider form) the option of keeping his clown head with spider legs was ridiculous.

I'd give it 7/10 but just because I tend to be very generous when scoring movies.

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SPOILERS !!!!!!!

The intro...no need for a gay couple to be gay bashed, left for dead and bitten. Waste of time and added nothing.
It's in the book.
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Re: Stephen King's 'It: Chapter Two' (September 6, 2019)

The gay bashing scene would have made more sense had this portion of the story had been set in the 80s, like in the book, but set in the more modern setting of 2017, it looked a little out of place. Not saying gay bashing still doesn't happen, but homosexuality is a lot more widely accepted now than it was 30 years ago and beyond, so having something like that set in near current day seemed a bit jarring.

Although lets be real. That was one of the film's lesser issues and I could even reason it as Pennywise's influence over the town causing negative feelings to come to the surface or whatever, so I guess it makes as much sense as anything else in the movie.

I took bigger umbridge with the Paul Bunyan statue and the "Angel in the Morning" moment, among other silly borderline comedic moments that felt out of place. The fuck were those?!

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The gay bashing scene would have made more sense had this portion of the story had been set in the 80s, like in the book, but set in the more modern setting of 2017, it looked a little out of place. Not saying gay bashing still doesn't happen, but homosexuality is a lot more widely accepted now than it was 30 years ago and beyond, so having something like that set in near current day seemed a bit jarring.

Although lets be real. That was one of the film's lesser issues and I could even reason it as Pennywise's influence over the town causing negative feelings to come to the surface or whatever, so I guess it makes as much sense as anything else in the movie.
Yes, indeed Pennywise not only chases and terrorizes the children of Derry but also influences the most part of the adult population or anyone it thinks it suits him hence the beating up of that gay couple. The hate in those teenagers towards the gay couple is a Pennywise's manifestation of its darkest feelings.

Tbh in the book, the scene is way more disturbing and violent, but hey that's Stephen King we are talking about, that guy wrote most of his classics under the influence of drugs and painkillers.

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Re: Stephen King's 'It: Chapter Two' (September 6, 2019)

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Did anybody else feel some of the scares this time around were a bit on the goofy side?

Like the granny scene in the trailer. Great in the trailer, but then when you actually see the granny monster in the movie...yeah, I damn near spit my coke out from laughing.

There were a few other moments like that.
Yea I def found this less scary than the first.


The lumberjack scene just made me laugh lol
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It's in the book.
The movie excluded stuff from the book. No reason they cant change it. The scene added nothing and was to long.

Honestly I was more disturbed and put off by the beating more than anything else in the movie.
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