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I like it. Want to see where it goes as the writers get more comfortable with it.

I do see a problem though. A friend of mine who is a Family Guy fan watched and was disappointed it wasn't more of a comedy. Viewers tuning in may be expecting a tone similar to his previous work.
Yeah that's the kinda response I get from my friends and family. Seth is so heavily associated to FG. Which I'm a huge fan of. So I think some were expecting a show in a similar tone. Like you said, similar to FG. I think that's Fox's fault though. Their promotion was a bit innocuous. Marketing team fail I think.
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I haven't watched Family Guy since it was orginally cancelled like 15 years ago but my wife asked me to record it for her. I was definitely expecting more vulgar, laugh out loud spots but I don't hate it. It moved to Thursdays, FYI.
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I finally caught up with the first 2 episodes, way better than I thought it would be. Hopefully they can keep this up the rest of the season
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I don't want to keep bringing it up but it's distracting just how much of a Star Trek clone this show is. I've never watched Voyager but the 2nd episode was directed by one it's main cast members, Robert Duncan McNeill/Lieutenant Tom Paris. The 3rd episode was directed by Brannon Braga, a producer from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. Episode 4 was directed by James Conway, who also directed episodes of TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. And lo and behold, Riker himself, Jonathan Frakes is the director of episode 5. They should have just come out and said this is a Star Trek spinoff that takes place in the same universe if they wanted to make another Star Trek show.

In episode 3, we got another Star Trek clone story about cultural differences between species and an officer serving as council in a court hearing. However, and this is where the praise comes in, I was very pleasantly surprised with how the episode ended. The expected ending was a winning of the case and the changing of the minds and blah blah but that's not where they went with it. They lost the case and the sex change happened, which rather impressed me because I didn't think they would do it, even though I was hoping they did.

Maybe there is hope for this show after all.

Oh and BTW, Rudolph is such a shit story. If I was Rudolph, I would have told Santa to go fuck himself. Y'all mother fuckers gonna treat me like shit but now you like me because you need my help? Fuck right off with that shit. Or better yet, take off with them but bail mid-flight and let those jagoffs crash in the winter storm. See ya, bitches.
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I don't want to keep bringing it up but it's distracting just how much of a Star Trek clone this show is. I've never watched Voyager but the 2nd episode was directed by one it's main cast members, Robert Duncan McNeill/Lieutenant Tom Paris. The 3rd episode was directed by Brannon Braga, a producer from TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. Episode 4 was directed by James Conway, who also directed episodes of TNG, DS9 and Enterprise. And lo and behold, Riker himself, Jonathan Frakes is the director of episode 5. They should have just come out and said this is a Star Trek spinoff that takes place in the same universe if they wanted to make another Star Trek show.
Seth doesn't have the rights to do a Star Trek show. And the point of the show was to make a Star Trek show that is lighter and more optimistic to offset the slew of darker and edger sci-fi, which now includes Star Trek itself.

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And odd jumble of campiness and sincerity, homage and satire...
How is this bad?

It's like that one person that reviewed Ozark. They didn't like Ozark because it was disturbing and hard to watch...I'm not even joking this exists. Ok cool, you don't like it, but it's your job to critique it and level your opinion on how effective and creative it is etc. If Ozark is disturbing and hard to watch...THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO. So Ozark is a success and you recommend it. I think Ozark was mostly praised though so it's not the same as The Orville.

As for The Orville I wasn't crazy about it. I'll give it a bit more time though.

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Star Trek shows NEVER get really good until season 2.
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Most great shows never got any good till around its 2nd season. Even Seths Family Guy. Only got good around second season. Seinfeld was slow, Friends too.

It does borrow from Star Trek a bit, but I don't mind that. It's more Homaging. I agree it does offset the more edgier, darker sci fi shows. In a more funnier, lighter, and optimistic way. I think Chuck left a void. The Orville potentially could fill in a different way. It's not the finished product by any means. But it's one of the most promising new shows of the year. The direction at the end of the last episode. Was unexpected I agree. Pleased with that. I think Fox should order a second season so it cannot develop a bit more.
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I was able to catch up with the episode I missed and also watched the third. I found myself very happy with them.

I like how the show is actually taking on serious issues but buffering them with simple humor. I was especially impressed by how the show took on the serious cultural differences in the different species while trying to show both sides of why each felt the way they did about their position. Like @Tater , I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the tribunal. The relationship between the two male characters (and their son) could be a source of tension going forward in the series. I am really enjoying how the show isn't just a straight up comedy.

The one thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the nod towards the "toxic masculinity" of the Moclins male only planet. But at least they didn't beat us over the head with it. I am fine with it as long as the show doesn't get preachy.
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I was able to catch up with the episode I missed and also watched the third. I found myself very happy with them.

I like how the show is actually taking on serious issues but buffering them with simple humor. I was especially impressed by how the show took on the serious cultural differences in the different species while trying to show both sides of why each felt the way they did about their position. Like @Tater , I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the tribunal. The relationship between the two male characters (and their son) could be a source of tension going forward in the series. I am really enjoying how the show isn't just a straight up comedy.

The one thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the nod towards the "toxic masculinity" of the Moclins male only planet. But at least they didn't beat us over the head with it. I am fine with it as long as the show doesn't get preachy.
I am really enjoying the direction this show is going in as well, I like now that some issues don't always get a happy ending on this show like in real life. Curious how things play out moving forward.
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