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Re: Hellboy to be rebooted with an R rated movie

Yeah a friend of mines and I were talking about this news yesterday in the and she isn't happy to see Hellboy being done without Ron Perlman and Guillermo Del Toro. She wanted like myself to see a third film and see where it goes because we liked both of the first two films, but a reboot with a little more bit more violence and darkness don't know if that's going to get me to go hooray I want to see this. Perlman older version of Hellboy was great, Harbour is only a younger version of him but he's in his early 40's and Perlman was in his early 50's. Don't know where the purpose to have him over Perlman, and I don't know the Comics so I don't know what's so great about Hellboy in the beginning stages before the first film that needs a reboot. I hope they don't fall on their asses, I wish them luck.
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Re: Hellboy to be rebooted with an R rated movie

I don't think people quite realise how old Ron Perlman is (just turned 67 years old last month) or how poorly GDT's movies have been doing at the box office (Crimson Peak only grossed $75 million worldwide on a $55 million budget and that's not including marketing costs). There's a reason why Hellboy 3 could never get made, the studio wasn't willing to fork up a $200 million budget for a movie that most likely wouldn't even be able to make that back at the box office.

I would of loved to of seen the trilogy completed but the sad reality is it wasn't financially feasible with GDT at the helm.

For all we know Mike Mignola wasn't happy seeing his character just sitting on the shelf. So I can't blame him for going down the reboot route. Deadpool has shown that it's possible to make quality R rated movies on a small budget.
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I don't think people quite realise how old Ron Perlman is (just turned 67 years old last month) or how poorly GDT's movies have been doing at the box office (Crimson Peak only grossed $75 million worldwide on a $55 million budget and that's not including marketing costs). There's a reason why Hellboy 3 could never get made, the studio wasn't willing to fork up a $200 million budget for a movie that most likely wouldn't even be able to make that back at the box office.

I would of loved to of seen the trilogy completed but the sad reality is it wasn't financially feasible with GDT at the helm.

For all we know Mike Mignola wasn't happy seeing his character just sitting on the shelf. So I can't blame him for going down the reboot route. Deadpool has shown that it's possible to make quality R rated movies on a small budget.
Read yesterday that Mike Mignola may not have been the biggest fan of GDT's changes to Hellboy's character. Don't know if that's true. Remember though that he, GDT, and Perlman met up and had dinner to discuss the part 3 and GDT announced it wasn't happening right after. Now GDT and Perlman were very gung-ho so it's not out of the realm of possibility that MM was the hold out.

I found this interview though. He comes off in the full thing like he loves GDT, but this one section is interesting when looking at it from the POV that he might have wanted to do a Hellboy closer to his creation. The full interview is a good read by the way.

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Mignola: ...and yeah, I mean, the Hellboy character in that second picture is so far away from my version of Hellboy, because you had the whole love-interest thing, which had morphed into this first-year-marriage squabbling kind of thing, which is totally alien to my character. So the Hellboy character did quite a few things in the second film that my Hellboy wouldn’t do. In fact, there was a moment in one of the meetings where I said, “Hellboy wouldn’t do that,” and Del Toro said, “Your Hellboy wouldn’t, mine would.” And that was one of those real moments of, “Oh, that’s right. I’m working on a Del Toro movie. I’ve gotten pretty far away from working on a regular Hellboy thing.”

Wired: What are some other big ways that the comics differ from what people see on-screen?

Mignola: My Hellboy is much older. Well, I guess they’re both the same age, it’s just my character matured somewhere back in the ’50s and ’60s. And del Toro’s Hellboy, even though they both arrived on Earth in the ’40s, somehow Del Toro’s Hellboy is still a lovesick teenager. My Hellboy is modeled on my father in some ways, a guy who’s been in the Korean War and he’s traveled and he’s done a lot of stuff, and he’s kind of got a “been there, done that” attitude. He’s also been in the world. Del Toro’s change was to have Hellboy bottled up in a room and mooning over the girl he can’t have. With my Hellboy, there were no girl problems. That element of the character was completely not in the comic.

But the one thing I’ve been really happy about is that for the most part people who are fans of the comic — despite all those big changes I just mentioned — they’re fans of the movie also. You know, Del Toro didn’t think twice about making all those changes to the character for the film. It was only when the film was about to come out that he started saying, “Gee, I wonder if the fans will lynch us.” And I said, “I just hope they don’t lynch me before I can point them in your direction, because that shit wasn’t my idea.” But for the most part it went down just fine with my audience. I’ve actually only had one guy come up to me and say — which is a weird thing for somebody to say — come up to me and say, “I discovered Hellboy from the film, and then I read the comic, but I like the movie better.” I’m sure there are people who feel that way, but I’ve only had one guy come up to me and actually say it.
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I can’t really talk about specifics with regard to the story, which they’re keeping a pretty tight lid on at the moment, but I can say that this is a darker, more gruesome version of Hellboy,” Cosby said. “Neil said from the very beginning that he wanted to walk a razor’s edge between horror and comic book movie, which was music to my ears, because that’s what I was shooting for in the script, and precisely what Mignola does so well with the comics. Honestly, everyone has just been working overtime to bring that Mignola magic to the big screen. The script is done, but work will continue as we move forward, always trying to make it the best it can be.”
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"a razor’s edge between horror and comic book movie" That sounds great. Hope they pull it off.

I disagree with Tambor, but I get where he's coming from.




MM acknowledging GDT and Perlman would have been nice.

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We have a title: Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen (2018)

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We’ve Got ‘Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen’ Sales Art Out of Cannes!

As announced last week, Neil Marshall (The Descent) is rebooting the Hellboy franchise with upcoming film Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen, which will star David Harbour (“Stranger Things”) as the title character. Based on what we’ve heard so far, it’s going to be darker and more gruesome than Guillermo del Toro’s films, which has certainly piqued our interest.

Want to see the first piece of early art? Out of Cannes, we just got our hands on the Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen sales art, which is a beautiful piece from Hellboy creator Mike Mignola. What can we ascertain about the upcoming live-action movie based on the art? Well, nothing really since it hasn’t yet begun filming, but the art seems to suggest a return to the character’s early roots.

Check it out below while we wait for more!

The Millennium Films project has already been scripted by Andrew Cosby, Christopher Golden, and Mike Mignola, and the plan is to bring it to the screen with an R rating. It is being executive produced by Christa Campbell, Lati Grobman, and Carl Hampe.

Look for Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen in 2018.

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Re: Hellboy: Rise of the Blood Queen (2018)

Took that picture from the comic/graphic novel, havn't they? Or I've just seen it before.

Marshall is a good director IMO so I'm interested in where he takes the franchise. I was dying for Perlman and co to finish the original trilogy but that was obviously never going to happen. Still one of the biggest 'fuck Hollywood' moments tbh. But we'll see if this can make up for that huuuuuuuge disappointment.
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From an interview with David Harbour.

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“Patton brokered a peace, it was incredible. I had reached out to Ron because I’m a big fan of his. He’s a really sweet guy and we wanted to just talk shop, and I just thought Patton Oswalt would be the perfect chaperone in case Ron and I started to make out or we started dancing too close or if we started getting in a fistfight.

I would not be doing Hellboy if it wasn’t for ‘Stranger Things,’ no. I would not. A lot of people responded to it. It’s got a lot of elements — Hopper is a very complicated character and has a lot of levels. And he is heroic, but he’s messed up, and I think they want this for this Hellboy as well. I think the films did a certain thing, the comics do a certain thing. Hellboy is kind of a neurotic, messed-up individual who’s destined for a horrible fate. He’s destined to become the beast of the apocalypse. Whenever he shows up and does the right thing, people throw beers at him and show up with pitchforks and he still manages to do the right thing. I think it’s funny and it’s sweet and it’s weird, and hopefully I can bring that to it as well.”

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I'm loyal to the character. This still sounds really good to me. May go back and spend the summer rereading the run and the spinoffs.
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The reboot nobody wanted.

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