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lol Zack Snyder being at the helm of majority of these projects, don't have much hope for those movies. He'll make them all "dark and gritty" to the point where there's not a single smile in the film. Affleck seems to have a solid resume for directing, I liked The Town quite a bit but I can't help but feel all of this is Snyder's vision because of how heavily involved he is with the DC Cinematic Universe. Just look at the way the Joker is, the way Superman is. It's all up in the air really and it worries me
Since when Superman was ever 100% lighthearted? The whole "dark and gritty" thing is beyond overblown. Warner Bros simply followed the realism that made The Dark Knight trilogy successful and considering the previous Superman film was unsuccessful. They had every right to try that route. It doesn't mean every DC character will have a dark tone.
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Since when Superman was ever 100% lighthearted? The whole "dark and gritty" thing is beyond overblown. Warner Bros simply followed the realism that made The Dark Knight trilogy successful and considering the previous Superman film was unsuccessful. They had every right to try that route. It doesn't mean every DC character will have a dark tone.
When was he ever 100% dark and gritty like Batman or The Punisher? The fact that Superman is a parallel of Jesus Christ would mean that he's not supposed to be a "dark and gritty" guy. Snyder wanted to make Superman a "bad ass" and the only way he could do that was to make him more like Batman. Also, he was a DRIFTER in Man of Steel and Johnathan Kent basically told Clark that he should have let people die. Tell me where he'd do that? Or how horribly bad Johnathan death scene was which completely destroyed the meaning behind his death. Snyder effectively had Superman make the choice not to save his father as opposed to having all the power in the world and not being able to save his father.

Snyder doesn't understand Superman and it was painfully obvious with Clark's characterization throughout the entire film. And please don't give me this "its different Superman!!!" well , this different Superman kind of sucks and he's a straight asshole. Your blind defense is ridiculous, its okay to criticize something but for me personally if I wanted to watch Batman I'd watch Batman. Superman is a hero for hope, he is literally is a character for little kids and just look at that dream sequence with all the skeletons give me a break. Mass destruction that disaster movies would envy. They tried forcing a square peg into a round hole

You CAN'T make Superman , a flying alien who shoots lazer beams out of his eyes "realistic". Stop with that , do you not see how stupid that sounds? Realism and Superman? are you kidding me?

Actually every character will have a dark tone because Zack Snyder is behind nearly every DC movie. Majority of the characters are coming directly from a movie he's making

Man of Steel - Director and story
BVS - Director and story
Wonder Woman - Executive Producer
JLA - Director and story
Aquaman - Executive Producer
JLA 2 - Director and story


I'm sorry but I'm seeing a huge influence by a guy who lives and dies by "dark and gritty" mixed with "lifeless" characters and story . The only thing he doesn't have an influence would be Suicide Squad yet that has his Batman in it. The Flash still doesn't have anything attached to it yet. All these characters are coming from mainly one guy sorry but I don't have faith in Snyder , especially with how much of an influence he has over the DC projects.
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But Snyder isn't at least attached at all with this movie, is he.

Although the way Affleck plays Batman in BVS im sure will continue in regards to the movie.

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Sweet! I was expecting Ben's solo Batman in 2019 so I'll gladly take it a year earlier. I can't wait to see how his directing skills translate over into the Comic Book Blockbuster genre, he's a done a tremendous job so far with his movies but will he be able to handle the action side of things?
'The Town' says he can handle action pretty well.

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Im certainly intrigued on how he will do in Batman vs Superman, so ill wait until then to judge how his take on being Batman is.

But im a fucking Batman freak, so i am looking forward to hearing more about this, what villian(s) he will use, and what direction he takes this into. Realistic like Nolan, or another way.

Besides, as a director, he rarely a miss TBH, so.
It'll be The Joker. They've used him twice before, I know. But you don't set up a character like that in Suicide Squad and not use him in a solo Batman movie.

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I wonder how Kevin Smith really feels that Ben Affleck stole the life he wanted.
Dudes probably happy for his friend tbh (even though they haven't spoken for years because his wife doesn't like Smith) plus Smith's fully aware of his weaknesses as a director. He'd never want to make a huge comic book film, he'd know it wouldn't work.

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Frankly I'm looking more anxiously forward to this than I am Justice League, since that... well, Zack Snyder. Look, maybe he'll prove me wrong in the future, and I am excited for Batman V Superman - out of the trailer and the posters, I can see that they transformed this into a WM 30 Daniel Bryan-like scenario where it was never the plan to try to cover up the blunders of Man Of Steel from a story perspective (Superman 'protecting' a city by destroying it in a fight and killing thousands, etc.) and use those as an instrument for the benefit of BVS's plot, and I like that a lot. Still won't make me think good of MOS, but yeah.

Now, I think I can start fanboying and dream casting. Most likely is that, given the background behind Batman's presence in Suicide Squad, they're going the Red Hood route, and I think Jensen Ackles is totally fit for that. But there are a few examples I consider more awesome... JOHNNY DEPP AS THE RIDDLER PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. If you're going instead for a villain you've never had, examples could be Christoph Waltz as Hugo Strange, Ray Liotta as Black Mask or Ewan McGregor as Basil Karlo Clayface (this latter would be excepionally great for a Nolan-style movie). And if there was a secondary villain, I'd like to see Baby Doll from TAS (crazy, I know, but I think DC would have the balls to pull it off, especially if JLA is a hit), played by either Chloe-Grace Moretz or Mackenzie Joy (who played young Murph in Interstellar). Besides that, I assume we'll have Jim Gordon by obligation, and even though Oldman was perfect, I say Bryan Cranston is a great replacement. And for Barbara, I would love for either Emily Blunt or Evan Rachel Wood.
I think it's highly rumoured that Ike Barinholtz is playing Hugo Strange in Suicide Squad, although Waltz would be great.

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lol Zack Snyder being at the helm of majority of these projects, don't have much hope for those movies. He'll make them all "dark and gritty" to the point where there's not a single smile in the film. Affleck seems to have a solid resume for directing, I liked The Town quite a bit but I can't help but feel all of this is Snyder's vision because of how heavily involved he is with the DC Cinematic Universe. Just look at the way the Joker is, the way Superman is. It's all up in the air really and it worries me
None of Snyder's films are 'dark and gritty'. 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch, all stylized to fuck and are very comic booky. Man of Steel I firmly believe turned out the way it did due to Nolan being attached to the film.

Not that I think Nolan was in any way ordering Snyder to make the film like that, but seeing Nolan attached to it and what he did with The Dark Knight and pretty much the only reason MOS happened was because Goyer and Nolan said 'we'd like to produce this version of MOS', I feel like Snyder felt he had to make the film that was different from his usual style.

Now that the DCU on film has a direction, and that this is something totally separate from the Nolan Trilogy, and even though MOS is in-canon, BvS will be the first film in this universe that they've planned it as a universe. So I imagine we'll have something much similar to his pre-MOS work.

Not to mention he changed his DP for MOS. Now he's back to shooting BvS with the same guy that shot 300, Watchmen and Sucker Punch, we're going to get a much more vibrant and comic-like film in BvS. Just comparing the relatively few shots we get in the teaser compared to how MOS is filmed. You can see the difference.
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I actually endorsed Depp as The Riddler to be in TDKR, as i was sure, and there were rumours also, it was a possibility.
Depp would've been better suited for a Batman movie directed by Tim Burton. it's too bad that they changed directors after Returns.
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None of Snyder's films are 'dark and gritty'. 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch, all stylized to fuck and are very comic booky. Man of Steel I firmly believe turned out the way it did due to Nolan being attached to the film.

Not that I think Nolan was in any way ordering Snyder to make the film like that, but seeing Nolan attached to it and what he did with The Dark Knight and pretty much the only reason MOS happened was because Goyer and Nolan said 'we'd like to produce this version of MOS', I feel like Snyder felt he had to make the film that was different from his usual style.

Now that the DCU on film has a direction, and that this is something totally separate from the Nolan Trilogy, and even though MOS is in-canon, BvS will be the first film in this universe that they've planned it as a universe. So I imagine we'll have something much similar to his pre-MOS work.

Not to mention he changed his DP for MOS. Now he's back to shooting BvS with the same guy that shot 300, Watchmen and Sucker Punch, we're going to get a much more vibrant and comic-like film in BvS. Just comparing the relatively few shots we get in the teaser compared to how MOS is filmed. You can see the difference.
For starters, I said he'd make all DC movies "dark and gritty" as thats the kind of vision they're going for. Which was inspired by his work on Watchmen while not inherently 100% "dark and gritty" its completely different from most comic book movies out there. Also, none of his movies come across "comic booky" just because the way they're stylized. You can see the influence Watchmen has on BVS from the trailers , it has that similar dark tone to the film. That's Snyder, you can even look at his Wonder Woman reveal too. I don't think Nolan was really apart of that Man of Steel that much . It seems more like they slapped his name on it and had him give his 2 cents but you can see Snyder's influence in MOS as well as BVS.

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But Snyder isn't at least attached at all with this movie, is he.

Although the way Affleck plays Batman in BVS im sure will continue in regards to the movie.
While he or his wife may not exactly be attached to the film(as of right now), his fingerprints will be all over the movie because Batman is being introduced in BVS. It's his Batman

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Philip Seymour Hoffman could've played a great Penguin
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I am all in for this DCU, I really don't care how heavily Snyder is going to influence it or how dark it's going to be, I am just elated that WB's have finally pulled their finger out and are now going full steam ahead

I wonder if we'll get a MoS sequel before 2020, and I wonder if Zack will direct that as well
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