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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-07-2017, 04:00 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: FIVE COUNT: Five Lessons Wrestling Bookers Can Learn from New Japan

There's cases for each but the main point is it's not necessary. Obviously there needs to be something but the pre match video packages serve that purpose. Which btw why do WWE make these awesome videos and then only air them on the show itself rather than filling Raw and Smackdown up with them.

The point about WWE not having anything to learn beause they're #1 is weird. Sports teams can win the league and still have lessons to learn, even from teams who finished lower than them but did other things well. There's always things that anyone and everyone can learn from others, which is the whole point of these articles. WCW died but there's still positive lessons others can learn from them, even when they were going down the drain. There's such thing as a hierachy of learning.
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1) You’re right on the money with the fact that the WWE seems to be more for the instant pay-out instead of letting characters develop. I almost wish we’d see something like you do in the skilled trades: apprentice->journeyman-> master. Pair up an apprentice wrestler with a journeyman, show them earning their place and becoming a journeyman wrestler themselves.
2) Titles being worth something instead of just a prop should be something that most promotions strive for. I remember when beating the man with the belt meant you were THE MAN. You can have a rematch clause but then if they don’t recapture- head to the back of the line. Don’t play hot potato with the belts. On the other hand, they should also be defended often- that builds equity quickly.
3) Guys and girls that have been at it 10+ years definitely deserve a place. If you’re a promotion like WWE where you have developmental system- you treat it like MLB and NHL do with theirs. You send veterans down for “rehab” assignments, they get a chance to fix injuries and pass along knowledge. You also have a place for those wrestlers that have been at it a while to go down and work on their skills while not developing “ring rust.”
4) Agreed, you don’t need a filler match.
5) WWE is unfortunately doing the same thing with its cruiserweights today that it did in the ‘90s when they had the working agreement with AAA. Treating them as a separate show and not allowing them to fight anybody but each other does nothing to sell the product. I’m not saying give them shots against people in the picture for the WWE/Universal Championship, but more like the guys that are on the IC/US title tier.
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In relation to the hierarchy, a tertiary belt for WWE would be a way of boosting this. Have a rookie win that championship, work with a veteran for a while in the tag team division, have the veteran win the IC/US belt, natural feud for that belt (now former) rookie wins the belt after some time wins the championship. (5-year plan maybe?) the problem WWE has as a company is choosing which employee could take this journey. Even without injuries, this is time-consuming. What if the wrestler goes Punk and leaves 90% through it? It's a lot of time and money into someone that leaves before the big payoff.
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In relation to the hierarchy, a tertiary belt for WWE would be a way of boosting this. Have a rookie win that championship, work with a veteran for a while in the tag team division, have the veteran win the IC/US belt, natural feud for that belt (now former) rookie wins the belt after some time wins the championship. (5-year plan maybe?) the problem WWE has as a company is choosing which employee could take this journey. Even without injuries, this is time-consuming. What if the wrestler goes Punk and leaves 90% through it? It's a lot of time and money into someone that leaves before the big payoff.
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How about 5 positive lessons the rest of the wrestling world could learn from WWE
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How about 5 positive lessons the rest of the wrestling world could learn from WWE
1. Be the oldest company
2. Buy your competition
3. Never mention outside competition
4. PR stunts (pink ropes/make a wish)
5. Pay better but treat worse

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