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Ratings has nothing to do with my post. Quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me if Christian did in fact draw terrible ratings for ECW. But my point in regards to this thread is the quality of the show after his arrival to the brand. And quite frankly, a clear cut generic babyface isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes it can be a great thing. But Christian still had a legitimate character and he was able to make it work. Now how much one enjoys it might be where my bias regarding him comes in, as I always found him entertaining in anything he did. To each its own I guess, but considering how Christian's character was dramatically different from what ECW was always used to having, I can't help but feel that it was crucial to helping ECW feel like an actual pro wrestling show with legitimate direction again.
Christian was the tank in terms of ratings. They went down when he took it off Swagger, up when Dreamer took it off him, and back down when he took it back.

I had no problem with Christian the wrestler. He to me should have been a smart ass face like Y2J or a douchebag heel. He wasn't either really and he got some no pops at all in different places where guys like Matt Hardy and Kane were over in that spot.

My biggest oh that sucks moment is that Monty Brown had such an unfortunate family situation. He never got pinned in ECW to his last match. He was great, talker, power, look, personality and I was hoping he would get the run TNA fucked him out of had his sister not died

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Ratings has nothing to do with my post. Quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me if Christian did in fact draw terrible ratings for ECW.
Oh, the ratings thing wasn't meant for you. That was actually in reply to @wwetna1 's comment about Christian killing ECW. Not you. Sorry about that.

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But Christian still had a legitimate character and he was able to make it work.
I don't disagree, and really, it's not like its his fault anyway. The last few months of ECW were basically in auto-pilot mode at that point.

PS: I'm still really bitter (yes, even to this day ) about how they prematurely ended the Christian-Swagger feud because of that "Power to the People" Trump Draft bullshit and then they ended up doing nothing with him on Raw, anyway.
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I probably would not have killed WWECW off. They should have transitioned it to WGN to take the spot of Superstars while still showing NXT

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I probably would not have killed WWECW off. They should have transitioned it to WGN to take the spot of Superstars while still showing NXT
I think the name of the brand itself has run its course at that point. I believe what they really had in mind was an on-air development show which eventually became the NXT we see today. Well, that and the NXT Gameshow that gave us Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett and a bunch of other geeks.
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I think the name of the brand itself has run its course at that point. I believe what they really had in mind was an on-air development show which eventually became the NXT we see today. Well, that and the NXT Gameshow that gave us Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett and a bunch of other geeks.
I agree to disagree there. Superstars was doing half its audience on WGN. At worst ECW keeps that same audience or betters it. The New Superstar Initiative as they had Tiffany call it continues and the ECW keeps being treated like a TV title on WGN where expectations are smaller. They could still tape it before Raw without a problem. And a lot of guys wouldn't get lost back in the shuffle.

NXT would devolve into redemption which was basicallhy some weird world of its own and a third show ala ECW without a belt.

To me guys like Fandango, Zeke, Titus, Axle, tyson, Regal, Finlay, Shelton, Tatsu, MAxine, and all them would have flourished under the ECW banner since the name was known by using the ECW title and Redemption format and NTI weekly on WGN. I think the TV audience would have been bigger too than Superstars.


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One of my favorite wrestlers from that time was Elijah Burke, I also thought that vampire stable was cool.
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Christian should've had Mo as his manager when he came back, because he was a man on a mission. He left in 2005 because he felt slighted, and he came back to "it's...Christian..." on the third brand, so I think he was hell bent on showing how great he was. And in my book, he succeeded. Christian's 2009 was one of the best years I've seen from anybody, and I watched Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart at their peaks.

Another great thing about the show at the time was the commentary. Matt Striker and Todd Grisham had an excellent give and take and were a blast to listen to. It was before Striker got a little too up his own ass, his wit flowed more naturally.

Before Smackdown caught fire in mid-late 2009, ECW was WWE's best show that year.
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WWECW was one of the worst products, even the original ECW was highly overrated.
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I actually enjoyed the WWECW. And thought it was way better than the original ECW. But the worst time for it I thought was when Christian was the main focus. I have just never enjoyed Christian as a wrestler
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