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I think you hit the nail on the head with why LIJ are so popular. These guys are the complete antithesis to common Japanese culture. In a society where public perception, legacy and loyalty are so important, these guys spat in the face of all of it, tore up the rule book and shook up the establishment.

To the more rebellious younger generation in Japan, Los are the anti-heroes who are brave enough to do what none of them will. While they go into the same lives as their parents, these guys are breaking the mold in a way that just isn't acceptable in mainstream Japanese society. Naito's character is the equivalent of walking into your office late, punching a colleague, flipping your desk over and spitting in the manager's face. And he gets away with it, that's why he's so cool to them. This is Japanese wrestling's DX, the in-your-face middle finger to the establishment. And in a culture as conservative as Japan's, it's even more outraegeous.
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Love your obsession with Little Miss Bliss. Besides Omega v. Naito and the ones that Rainmaka! mentioned, I also enjoyed these matches from Naito:

Katsuyori Shibata v. Tetsuya Naito - G1 Climax 26 - Day 8
Tetsuya Naito v. EVIL - G1 Climax 26 - Day 14

Definitely not on the level of Omega/Naito as far as match quality but it's worth the watch.

And, what a detailed article, Rainmaka! I loved it. Tetsuya Naito's transformation is one of my favorite Heel turns of all time, along with The New Day. His character as a disrespectful, egotistical Heel makes it that much better, especially since it's done in Japan. The way he carries the IWGP IC Title and throws it on the floor clearly proves that.

Not to mention that he's the leader of one the hottest Heel stables in NJPW right now ever since Devitt/Styles became leader of BC. His story is a miracle honestly and WWE should take notes to possibly test it with their Samoan "golden boy." And yes, I believe Tetsuya Naito is a much better Heel than Minoru Suzuki, The Miz, Charlotte, etc.

An article for Kenny Omega and his journey (leader of the Bullet Club, G1 Climax, six-star match, etc.) to the IWGP Heavyweight Title would be cool to read!
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His evolution is truly a spectacle. I swear those Mexican excursions do wonders for these guys. Okada, NATO, Nakamura, Hiromu are a testament to that.
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I think you hit the nail on the head with why LIJ are so popular. These guys are the complete antithesis to common Japanese culture. In a society where public perception, legacy and loyalty are so important, these guys spat in the face of all of it, tore up the rule book and shook up the establishment.

To the more rebellious younger generation in Japan, Los are the anti-heroes who are brave enough to do what none of them will. While they go into the same lives as their parents, these guys are breaking the mold in a way that just isn't acceptable in mainstream Japanese society. Naito's character is the equivalent of walking into your office late, punching a colleague, flipping your desk over and spitting in the manager's face. And he gets away with it, that's why he's so cool to them. This is Japanese wrestling's DX, the in-your-face middle finger to the establishment. And in a culture as conservative as Japan's, it's even more outraegeous.
Exactly, I can't recall a stable quite like LIJ before and what it represents.
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As my name suggests, it's NOCONTESTU: Tetsuya Naito and LIJ are the coolest acts to hit the business in a long ass time!
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As my name suggests, it's NOCONTESTU: Tetsuya Naito and LIJ are the coolest acts to hit the business in a long ass time!
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Fantastic write up! I've been watching NJPW regularly since 2014's Wrestle Kingdom and so I never was fully immersed in Naito's journey but that is strangely similar to Rocky Maivia in 1997 and a lot like Roman Reigns now (albeit far less extreme). I always thought he was fantastic in the ring but would be mid-card for life and his excursion to Mexico did him wonders. Now look at him, the fans are BEGGING for him to turn face!
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Fantastic write up! I've been watching NJPW regularly since 2014's Wrestle Kingdom and so I never was fully immersed in Naito's journey but that is strangely similar to Rocky Maivia in 1997 and a lot like Roman Reigns now (albeit far less extreme). I always thought he was fantastic in the ring but would be mid-card for life and his excursion to Mexico did him wonders. Now look at him, the fans are BEGGING for him to turn face!
It is fascinating. He was always a babyface with fire but he was essentially being molded as a (lower rent) version of Tanahashi. Fans don't like it when companies try to create new Faces of the Company that are lesser versions of the previous Face of the Company as we saw with Lex Luger/Hulk Hogan and now with Reigns/Cena.

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2013: Naito wins the G1 and the fans reject him.
2017: Naito wins the G1 and the fans love him.


What a fucking redemption arc.
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2013: Naito wins the G1 and the fans reject him.
2017: Naito wins the G1 and the fans love him.


What a fucking redemption arc.
I've been watching Naito since I really got into NJPW three years ago and the way his story unfolded has been incredible to watch.

In a time where the self-proclaimed global leader in wrestling (whoops, sports entertainment) can't properly create an organic top babyface (much less turn one around after people turn on them) to save their collective life, Naito, Gedo and NJPW as a whole have made me proud. That's how ya fucking do pro wrestling.

They took a crappy situation, worked through it (instead of ignoring and covering it up or trying to blame the fans) and were able to turn things around without insulting their audience along the way. Where the fuck are your notes, WWE? Some of your guys (hell, the fans too) could use something like this.
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I've been watching Naito since I really got into NJPW three years ago and the way his story unfolded has been incredible to watch.

In a time where top wrestling companies can't properly create an organic top babyface (much less turn one around after people turn on them) to save their life, Naito, Gedo and NJPW as a whole have made me proud. They took a crappy situation, worked through it and were able to turn things around without insulting their audience along the way. Where the fuck are your notes, WWE?
Naito really is the anti-Roman Reigns. Granted, Naito wasn't rejected to the level Reigns STILL is but it was enough for NJPW to panic and try to wrong the situation.
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