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Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

Over the last 40 years there have probably been at least a hundred guys whose careers have been cut short, crippled or derailed because of horrible WWF writing or poor decisions.

Who are the wrestlers who suffered the most?

My answer would be twofold....

Terry Taylor is obviously in my opinion the star on the rise that the WWF destroyed his career. The guy was destined to be a world title contender until the Red Rooster gimmick. Just an unimaginable bad idea. I did not even like the guy. He wrestled here in my local territory and I could not stand him, but I knew he had what it took to go far. I actually felt bad for the fella when he debuted as the Rooster.

Second I think the Bushwhackers would argue that they did make a lot of money, but heck if the WWF did not ruin one of the most viciously awesome, take no crap tag teams of the 70's and 80's The Sheepherders, and turn them into a team only children could love.
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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

OP, I swear on everything I love, before I clicked on the thread to view, I was going to type Terry Taylor.


Instead, guess I'll go with Taz. ECW spent nearly 3 years building up Taz as a total bad ass, having him destroy everybody. WWE was on the right path with him but suddenly, booked him with Jerry Lawler than completely ruined his legacy by making him look like a bitch during the angle with Austin in the Alliance. Don't know how many years Taz could have lasted but the fact that they took a talent like him and booked him as a coward was pretty bad.

Also, Lex Luger. People bash Luger pretty bad but his JCP run wasn't that bad and early 90s WCW, he showed a glimpse of greatness as a heel after Flair left. Then, WWE gives him a body building gimmick, followed by trying to make him a Hogan clone. Didn't really damage his career but damn, WWE kind of dropped the ball with him.

And who can forget how they booked the Rock N Roll Express, one of the greatest tag teams of all time, in that NWA angle in 1998.

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Taz fucking sucked...he wasn't damaged, the WWE did him a favor.

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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

I don't know if I can just pick one so here are a few names that come to mind.

-Vader
-Goldberg
-Raven
-Taz
-Terry Taylor
-DDP....stupid stalker angle...

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2. The Rock
3. Undertaker
4. Kane
5. CM Punk
6. Shawn Michaels
7. Daniel Bryan
8. Goldberg
9. Triple H
10. Mick Foley

Those are my top ten and I really don't care who agrees or disagrees.

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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

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OP, I swear on everything I love, before I clicked on the thread to view, I was going to type Terry Taylor.


Instead, guess I'll go with Taz. ECW spent nearly 3 years building up Taz as a total bad ass, having him destroy everybody. WWE was on the right path with him but suddenly, booked him with Jerry Lawler than completely ruined his legacy by making him look like a bitch during the angle with Austin in the Alliance. Don't know how many years Taz could have lasted but the fact that they took a talent like him and booked him as a coward was pretty bad.

Also, Lex Luger. People bash Luger pretty bad but his JCP run wasn't that bad and early 90s WCW, he showed a glimpse of greatness as a heel after Flair left. Then, WWE gives him a body building gimmick, followed by trying to make him a Hogan clone. Didn't really damage his career but damn, WWE kind of dropped the ball with him.

And who can forget how they booked the Rock N Roll Express, one of the greatest tag teams of all time, in that NWA angle in 1998.
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Been thinking about it more. How about the Warlord? I mean the guy obviously had limited ability in the ring, but he had a look that just demanded respect and what was his WWF legacy? Getting eliminated in seconds at the Royal Rumble. Years of building up in the WCW and WWF went down the drain.

Also in the early 90's when the WWF decided to bring in regional stars and give them bad gimmicks as glorified jobbers, like Black Bart, Tracy Smothers, Bill Irwan, and Tony Anthony. All guys who gave their blood to the industry for decades and were jobbed out?

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Taz fucking sucked...he wasn't damaged, the WWE did him a favor.

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Explain why he sucked?


Besides him, WWE never did anything slightly correct with any WWE talent besides the Dudley Boyz. Jericho, Benoit and Guerrero don't necessarily count, as they were built up in WCW.


Point is, WWE completely killed his momentum and reputation. Sure, he wasn't a legit bad ass but ECW booked him so strong, as a guy who backed down from nobody. Then, WWE had him waste away with Lawler and get punked out by Austin. I don't blame Taz for retiring, WWE really dropped the ball with him, along with Raven, Rhyno, Saturn, Mike Awesome, Sabu, RVD (to an extent), Public Enemy, nearly every wrestler they ever signed away from ECW. But, Taz sticks out the most because of his Path Of Rage and character that ECW built up better than anybody else in history.


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WWF fucked up DDP huge. Taz was a cool character and whatever whatever, but like Sandman in WCW he just was not gonna work outside of that ECW scene. DDP was a made commodity. DDP was over as fuck. When he peeled off that ski mask, 20,000 threw up the DC symbol.

Went from being the WCW's Rock to a midcard motivational speaker gimmick in record time. He was doomed from the start as a a stalker of an ugly woman who was beaten by the ugly stick when she was born.

DDP could have made Vince money. He should have gone over Taker and should have had a program with all the top guys including a Rock/DDP money match. I know he was in his 40's and why would WWE push him over all the youn..wait. what the hell am I saying they only pushed 1 WCW guy and he was made to be a bitch for years (Book).
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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

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Explain why he sucked?


Besides him, WWE never did anything slightly correct with any WWE talent besides the Dudley Boyz. Jericho, Benoit and Guerrero don't necessarily count, as they were built up in WCW.


Point is, WWE completely killed his momentum and reputation. Sure, he wasn't a legit bad ass but ECW booked him so strong, as a guy who backed down from nobody. Then, WWE had him waste away with Lawler and get punked out by Austin. I don't blame Taz for retiring, WWE really dropped the ball with him, along with Raven, Rhyno, Saturn, Mike Awesome, Sabu, RVD (to an extent), Public Enemy, nearly every wrestler they ever signed away from ECW. But, Taz sticks out the most because of his Path Of Rage and character that ECW built up better than anybody else in history.




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Thanks Trouble Trouble, the respect goes both ways here. I only wish there were more posters like you who understand that wrestling has a rich history not to be ignored.

As far as Tazz goes I will admit I am not a fan but I do totally agree with you. It really does not matter who I like, personally I am a total Lawler fan as you probably have gathered, but they really should have taken advantage of the ECW Tazz push. Instead they waisted him.
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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

Goldberg springs to mind.


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Re: Which wrestler's legacy was damaged most by the WWE?

The thing about Taz that people ignore is, he wasn't your typical ECW wrestler, he was a damn good mat wrestler, before and after he broke his neck. Taz/Guerrero vs. Malenko/Scorpio from 1995 is 1 of the best matches I've ever seen, in a 100 degree plus ECW Arena in the middle of the summer.

WWE could have did so much with Taz and at least put him into a lengthy feud with Angle, since ECW was possibly headed that way in 1996, sort of like unfinished business.


On that note, 2 Cold Scorpio is another guy they damaged. Scorpio was one of the top wrestlers of the 90s but WWE gave him virtually the same gimmick Brodus Clay has now. Aside from a handful of appearances in ECW afterwards, Scorpio ended up moving to Germany and mostly competing in Japan to regain his credibility as one of the most underrated performers of all time. Shame that Scorpio, in his 40s, can still work circles around 80% of WWE's current roster.

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