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post #21 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-13-2019, 12:14 AM
 
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Re: When you go back to previous eras, who is better than you remember?

Some of the guys that were before my time but watching them now just blow me away how good they were:

Jerry Lawler (Memphis)
Buddy Landell
Gino Hernandez
Tully Blanchard (JCP)
Arn Anderson (JCP)
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Barry f'n Windham

Ron Simmons before the APA.

Lex Luger before 1999.


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Arn Anderson in my opinion was ahead of his time. His old promos were amazing. He was quite skilled in the ring, and was world champion material. He should have gone way ahead of where he actually ended up.

Rick Rude and Razor Ramon were world champion materials too. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about with Diesel, and didn't understand how he was so over during the NG era.

The ones that baffles me to this day are Ric Flair and Mick Foley. Both were awful in the ring (their matches looked horrible and phony), Flair's promos were just awful as were Foley's for the most part. Fact of the matter is that they drew a lot of money; Foley was right behind Austin and Rock as one of the top draws during the AE and Flair pretty much drew Southern territories by himself (not an easy thing to do) for decades. I still don't understand their appeal.
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Re: When you go back to previous eras, who is better than you remember?

Another for Bret Hart. And as another said, I found him so boring and awful as a kid, but realized his greatness as I’ve gotten older.

Someone else said X-Pac and I kind of agree. I actually did like him as a kid (I liked the Syxx and X-Pac characters, but not 123-Kid, though nostalgia is strong for him), but always thought he was just a small guy that got beat up a lot.... he was.... but now I realize that he was great at getting beat up, thrown around, and selling.... Selling well I knew nothing about as a kid


Edit: saw the Flair post. I honestly never saw the appeal, and still don’t. But his peak in wrestling was before I started watching, and I know how much difference it can make to experience something great and innovative as it was happening, even though it may not carry over decades later. By 1992/1993 I just thought he was old.

His matches all seem the same to me, and always feature those same spots/series of moves (my complaint about DB a few years ago), with a few extras sprinkled in here and there. I dunno, I guess a lot of guys are like that.


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Arn Anderson in my opinion was ahead of his time. His old promos were amazing. He was quite skilled in the ring, and was world champion material. He should have gone way ahead of where he actually ended up.

Rick Rude and Razor Ramon were world champion materials too. I honestly didn't see what the fuss was about with Diesel, and didn't understand how he was so over during the NG era.

The ones that baffles me to this day are Ric Flair and Mick Foley. Both were awful in the ring (their matches looked horrible and phony), Flair's promos were just awful as were Foley's for the most part. Fact of the matter is that they drew a lot of money; Foley was right behind Austin and Rock as one of the top draws during the AE and Flair pretty much drew Southern territories by himself (not an easy thing to do) for decades. I still don't understand their appeal.
Anytime anyone wants to rag on Flair's matches it just baffles me. You say his matches look phony but oftentimes the same people who say this also praise guys like Ricochet or even Rollins-- who has no concept of ring psychology or selling.

Flair put you on the edge of your seat every damn time and knew how to control a crowd and lead a match better than damn near anyone that's ever done it.

Foley? Yeah, I've never liked him at all even as a kid. I'll give you that one.


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Bobby Heenan for all the love and praise he gets, It still isn't enough. Every time I watch something he called I'm reminded that he's the best to ever do it.
True! Heenan was the best. His chemistry with Gorilla Monsoon added so much to every match they called.
Agreed! I was a little kid when Bobby and Gorilla were ag their best so a lot of the jokes went over my head. I was older when JR and King were running the show so automatically called them the GOATS. Looking back and listening to Bobby and Gorilla and getting the jokes, they were the best...and that says a lot with how little Gorilla knew about the holds.

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Jerry Lawler. Like for real I thought he was trash. Then a couple years ago I started checking out his Memphis work, and he's actually fully top tier as a talent in his prime. Insane how your perception of a wrestler can completely change when you fully see the body of their work.

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Test. He was a pretty good big man, he was just saddled with a stupid name.
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Re: When you go back to previous eras, who is better than you remember?

Okay...so for this thread I am just going to copy and paste wcw 1992 roster minus Van Hammer. no more need to really be said:

"Beautiful" Bobby Eaton,
Sting, "The All-American" Ron Simmons, "The Dog-Faced Gremlin" Rick
Steiner, Michael "P.S." Hayes, Scott Steiner, "Fly'in" Brian Pillman, "The
Z-Man" Tom Zenk, Arn Anderson, Brad Armstrong, Barry Windham, Big Van
Vader, Vinnie Vegas, "Dangerous" Dan Spivey, "The Natural" Dustin Rhodes,
Johnny B. Badd, "Stunning" Steve Austin, Cactus Jack,
, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, "Diamond"
Dallas Page, Marcus Alexander Bagwell, Gregg "The Hammer" Valentine, "The
Russian Nightmare" Nikita Koloff, "The Super Invader" Ray Hernandez, "Dr.
Death" Steve Williams, Terry "Bam-Bam" Gordy, The Barbarian, Scotty
Flamingo, "DIrty" Dick Slaytor, Eric Watts, Jake "The Snake" Roberts

this whole year of WCW....perfect ace. When it comes to in ring performances.


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