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post #1 of 71 (permalink) Old 03-27-2019, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
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Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

The claim is that "people didn't want to boo Austin, and that they spit in everyone's face for messing up a 4 year storyline between Austin/Mcmahon by making them pals" in regards to Wrestlemania 17.


Whoever says that to me shows they didn't watch during the Attitude era.

Austin/Mcmahon was long done in 1999, it was called the "End of an era" at Fully Loaded 1999. they didn't feud again, there was no more Austin/Mcmahon rivalry. apart from a few stunners here and there, there was no feud.

Austin even helped Mcmahon win the WWF title in September of 1999 and Mcmahon helped enter Austin into the Royal Rumble in 2001(even counted 3 for Austin on 1st Smackdown of 2001)

This idea that they ended the rivalry makes no sense to anyone who watched during the Attitude era, because that rivalry definitively ended in 1999. anyone who tells you otherwise wasn't watching, go watch the shows back yourself or ask someone who lived it.


As far as getting booed, Austin was booed the very next night on Raw in his own homestate of texas once the heel turn was confirmed. the reason for the heel turn was that he had gotten stale by the end of 1999, apart from some great return pops in late 2000, he needed to be refreshed, which the Mania heel turn did and contrary to IWC belief it was well recieved.(Hence why he was more over with the Kurt Angle skits than he had even been since 1999)

It was the Kurt Angle comedic duo that got him cheered again, that's the way his character should've gone, instead they turned him back to old stone Cold then back heel within weeks, he never regained momentum like pre-1999, aside from the Old Stone Cold return on Raw and brief "what?" meme.
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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

Every metric plummeted the moment Austin turned heel.

If you believe that's coincidence, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

The heel turn led to a direct drop in business and pretty much everyone involved (including Austin) admits it was a mistake

I personally enjoyed it, but it was definitely a mistake in hindsight
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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

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Every metric plummeted the moment Austin turned heel.

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The heel turn led to a direct drop in business and pretty much everyone involved (including Austin) admits it was a mistake

I personally enjoyed it, but it was definitely a mistake in hindsight

Rock left(who was face of the company by this point since 99) cause the ratings & house show plummet, Austin's heel turn retained certain viewers/demographics.

No one was saying Austin's heel turn caused a ratings plummet. I know for a fact that Rock's leaving plummeted the ratings it was even on the news, then Triple H's leaving caused them to start the invasion early.

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Rock left(who was face of the company by this point since 99), Austin's heel turn retained viewers.

No one was saying Austin's heel turn caused a ratings plummet. I know for a fact that Rock's leaving plummeted the ratings it was even on the news, then Triple H's leaving caused them to start the invasion.
Please provide evidence to support your argument.

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Ratings aside his Heel run went South the moment he turned into a comedy act with Angle.
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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

OP, you're making it too obvious who you are. And if you are that person, you made it clear on previous accounts that you were born in 1994. So all this "if you were watching at the time" schtick is pretty damn funny.
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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

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Please provide evidence to support your argument.
Ratings immediately nosediving following the April 2nd 2001 Raw and Smackdown where Rock was suspended. if it was Austin's heel turn explain the ratings full point bump(not a mere post PPV bump, a full point 4.7 to 5.7) on the next nights Raw.

People actually tuned in to see Rock vs a heel Austin, therefore heel turn didn't affect ratings, Rock going to hollywood made ratings fell.

Ratings didn't fall when Austin was completely absent in 2000, it's illogical for ratings to fall because of a heel turn involving someone who they didn't feud with for 2 years at that point. no heel turn resulted in ratings decline, as a matter of fact every single major heel turn resulted in ratings bump(Hogan 96, Mcmahon 97, Rock 98)

And before you claim they didn't want to boo him, his own home state of texas booed him against The Rock on the April 2nd Raw.
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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

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Re: Why do people say that no one wanted a heel Austin with Mcmahon?

The Rock was not a bigger star in wrestling than Austin. Let it go.
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