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Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

I have seen many who doesn't rate him because wrestling was territorial, and WWE wasn't the big brand back then, there were larger promotions.

Where do you put Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

Are there anymore like Lou Thesz, Rikidozan, Buddy Rogers, Antonio Inoki who should be rated higher?


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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

Without having actually seen him wrestle, I cannot really form an opinion and nor can really anyone else bar a select few who watched him in his prime. Recency bias is usually common in all GOAT debates. His wrestling style was boring when looking back but you have to look at it as a completely different era to sort of appreciate it.

WWE's revisionist history will tell you he was one of the greatest though and one of the most famous and biggest superstar of his era.

When facts and historians will tell you that he was probably about as famous as whoever the most famous New York Knicks player is right now. He wasn't a huge celebrity, but he was well known, especially in the North East. Outside of that however? Nowhere near as much, he'd just be booked as Northeast Champion or whatever it was called.

In terms of most famous, Lou Thesz was a lot more famous than he was. Buddy Rodgers and Freddy Blassie could probably give him a run for his money too.

It really depends how you define your great of all time lists. Pure wrestler? Draws? Mic work?
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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

He's one of the all time greats. I have him among the top 10-15 all time.

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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

Top 11-20 easily, maybe even top ten. The guy basically carried WWWF back in the day and was one of the most beloved babyfaces of all time.
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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

In terms of accomplishments and popularity/impact, easily in the top 10.

As far as actual performer skills, promo work etc he was fairly unimpressive by the standards of his day, and moreso today. I could name probably 5-10 wrestlers during his era whose work in the ring and on the mic holds up better today.

Still, the dude had a sort of charisma. Crowds loved him and he had a real blue collar appeal to him (not unlike a certain someone from the late 90s). He tended to dominate his matches from start to finish and the crowd loved it.
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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

massively overhyped by wwf/wwwf/wwe

was a north-east regional draw, not a national one

this is how the territory system worked in the 60s & 70s and somewhat in the 80s

what drew in california did not draw in texas, what drew in texas did not draw in new york etc

of course you had andre and later flair who were essentially special attractions that moved from territory to territory
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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

I really need to go back and watch some old Bruno matches. I am very uneducated on Bruno outside of what he did just know very little on how he did it.

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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

Probably top 20. He's still one of the most dominant world heavyweight champions of all time. But his impact was still overrated and he wasn't the national superstar WWE would lead you to believe.

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Re: Where do you put Bruno Sammartino in a greatest of all time list?

I would place him around 12-21

I am one of the biggest critics of the Bruno overhype but I really cant see him falling much further. I used to rank him much lower but the more I have learned the higher he has risen.

I mean there's this tier which he is not in IMO,
Lou Thesz, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock, Gorgeous George, Rikidozan, El Santo, Jim Londos, Andre the Giant, and Buddy Rogers rank them however you want but that's 11

Then there's Randy Savage, Terry Funk, Nick Bockwinkel, Antonio Inoki, Mil Mascaras, Stan Hansen, Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, Jerry Lawler, Tigermask, Bruno Sammartino, Undertaker. So depending on who you ask I would put him there.

and before I get push back.....HBK, HHH, Bret, Jack Brisco, Brody, Blue Demon, Giant Baba etc....that's the next level

I would probably rank him at #18 fairly

I mean my opinion has changed so much over the years.
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