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And so it begins- Leaked documents show White House is planning executive order to censor the Internet

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Breaking: leaked documents show that the Trump administration is drafting an executive order that, if upheld by the courts, could essentially end free speech on the Internet. The draft order would put the FTC and the FCC, headed by its notoriously corrupt chairman Ajit Pai, in charge of monitoring and policing online speech on social media platforms, online forums, and more.

It would give these bureaucratic government agencies unprecedented control over how Internet platforms moderate speech by allowing them to revoke the essential protections Congress laid out in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA). CDA 230 is the basic law that makes it possible for online platforms to let users post our own content, and to make basic decisions about what types of content they as private entities want to host. Every meme, every social media post, every blog and user-created video on the Internet has been made possible by this crucial free speech protection.

In practice, this executive order would mean that whichever political party is in power could dictate what speech is allowed on the Internet. If the government doesn’t like the way a private company is moderating content, they can shut their entire website down. The administration claims it’s trying to stop private companies from silencing speech—but this plan would create terrifying new censorship powers for the government to do just that. And the White House isn’t alone in promoting this misguided idea, some top Democrats have also called for weakening CDA 230.

The draft order has already been resoundingly condemned by First Amendment and free speech experts from across the political spectrum. Regardless of your politics, regardless of how you feel about the president, this is a terrible idea that will have the exact opposite impact of its stated purpose of protecting free speech. Sign the petition to tell the White House: “Don’t break the Internet with an executive order that makes the FCC and FTC the speech police. Uphold the First Amendment and leave the free and open web alone.”

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White House proposal would have FCC and FTC police alleged social media censorship

Washington (CNN Business)A draft executive order from the White House could put the Federal Communications Commission in charge of shaping how Facebook (FB), Twitter (TWTR) and other large tech companies curate what appears on their websites, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

The draft order, a summary of which was obtained by CNN, calls for the FCC to develop new regulations clarifying how and when the law protects social media websites when they decide to remove or suppress content on their platforms. Although still in its early stages and subject to change, the Trump administration's draft order also calls for the Federal Trade Commission to take those new policies into account when it investigates or files lawsuits against misbehaving companies. Politico first reported the existence of the draft.
If put into effect, the order would reflect a significant escalation by President Trump in his frequent attacks against social media companies over an alleged but unproven systemic bias against conservatives by technology platforms. And it could lead to a significant reinterpretation of a law that, its authors have insisted, was meant to give tech companies broad freedom to handle content as they see fit.

A White House spokesperson declined to comment on the draft order, but referred CNN to Trump's remarks at a recent meeting with right-wing social media activists. During the meeting, Trump vowed to "explore all regulatory and legislative solutions to protect free speech."
According to the summary seen by CNN, the draft executive order currently carries the title "Protecting Americans from Online Censorship." It claims that the White House has received more than 15,000 anecdotal complaints of social media platforms censoring American political discourse, the summary indicates. The Trump administration, in the draft order, will offer to share the complaints it's received with the FTC.
In May, the White House launched a website inviting consumers to report complaints of alleged partisan bias by social media companies.
The FTC will also be asked to open a public complaint docket, according to the summary, and to work with the FCC to develop a report investigating how tech companies curate their platforms and whether they do so in neutral ways. Companies whose monthly user base accounts for one-eighth of the U.S. population or more could find themselves facing scrutiny, the summary said, including but not limited to Facebook, Google, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest and Snapchat.
The Trump administration's proposal seeks to significantly narrow the protections afforded to companies under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, a part of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Under the current law, internet companies are not liable for most of the content that their users or other third parties post on their platforms. Tech platforms also qualify for broad legal immunity when they take down objectionable content, at least when they are acting "in good faith."
From the start, the legislation has been interpreted to give tech companies the benefit of the doubt.
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"The law that I wrote, Section 230, allows platforms to get this kind of slime and hate off the platform," Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said in an interview with CNN on Friday, referring to hate speech that has appeared on forums such as 8chan. 8chan made headlines recently when a racist manifesto believed to have been written by the El Paso, Texas shooting suspect was published on the site.
By comparison, according to the summary, the White House draft order asks the FCC to restrict the government's view of the good-faith provision. Under the draft proposal, the FCC will be asked to find that social media sites do not qualify for the good-faith immunity if they remove or suppress content without notifying the user who posted the material, or if the decision is proven to be evidence of anticompetitive, unfair or deceptive practices.
Wyden, in the interview, called the proposal "horrible" and said neither the FTC nor the FCC are "exactly tripping over themselves... to carry it out."
"I bet you scores of conservatives are turning over in their grave right now listening to all of these big government approaches," Wyden said. "Their proposal today amounts to nothing short of a speech police."
In its current form, the draft order could lead to significant questions about the role the FCC and FTC can play when it comes to interpreting and enforcing Section 230, an area they have previously left largely unaddressed. The effort to draft the order has been ongoing for some time, the people said, and the proposal remains subject to change.
"It makes no sense to involve the FCC here," said Berin Szoka, president of the libertarian-leaning think tank TechFreedom. "They have rule-making authority, but no jurisdiction — they can't possibly want to be involved. It would be an impossible position."
The FTC and FCC both declined to comment.
The attempt to write the order comes as the White House on Friday prepared to meet with a number of tech companies to discuss their approaches to detecting and responding to violent extremism.
The midday meeting is expected to involve five-minute presentations from the companies on their respective policies and projects, according to copies of an invitation obtained by CNN. The presentations will be followed by a group discussion on technology and the companies' roles in fighting "signals of violence ... while respecting free speech."
Some people close to the tech industry expressed frustration that the White House seemed to be trying to have it both ways — excoriating tech companies for allegedly censoring conservative speech, a claim the platforms vigorously dispute, while castigating them for failing to block enough violent or hateful content.
"The internal inconsistency of this is outrageous," one of them said.
-- CNN Business' Donie O'Sullivan contributed reporting.
Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly described what content internet companies may be liable for under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

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The executive order that is going to challenge censorship on the internet by hosting companies is actually going to censor the internet

Making publishing decisions makes you a publisher, and not covered by Section 230. The strangling of free speech on the internet by Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. is about to be seriously challenged, and as you can see some people are very unhappy about it

Many of these same people are very very very concerned about corporate control over politics - except when it comes to Bay Area tech corporations run by egomaniac fascists, those corporations controlling politics is okay

Thread title is misleading and contradicted by the starting post. Orwellian as fuck gaslighting

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Also I'd rather we just disband the FCC.

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It's an XO meaning it has no real staying power. Also it will be challenged in courts for years ie longer than Trump will be in power. This is all for show from Trump to pretend to his nut base that SM really has it out for them and he's going to do something about it.

Zero chance this happens. This would get laughed out of the Supreme Court, should it ever get there 9-0.

It's all about stoking the conspiracy theorist MAGA loons that they really have the majority and being censored to making it seem that they're the minority. So when Trump loses in 2020 it will be because he was screwed and he can control his dead enders to doing dumb shit if he's tried for his crimes.
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It's an XO meaning it has no real staying power. Also it will be challenged in courts for years ie longer than Trump will be in power. This is all for show from Trump to pretend to his nut base that SM really has it out for them and he's going to do something about it.

Zero chance this happens.
An XO has as much staying power as a judge says it does in a political decision. See: DACA

When it gets challenged in court it will be at the Supreme Court within a year as political pressure will be applied to move it through the appellate courts quickly and for the SC to agree to hear the case. The same as with Obamacare or the travel ban or the wall funding national emergency declaration. Courts move as fast as those with influence want them to. Both sides will want a final decision asap

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An XO has as much staying power as a judge says it does in a political decision. See: DACA

When it gets challenged in court it will be at the Supreme Court within a year as political pressure will be applied to move it through the appellate courts quickly and for the SC to agree to hear the case. The same as with Obamacare or the travel ban or the wall funding national emergency declaration. Courts move as fast as those with influence want them to. Both sides will want a final decision asap
When I say staying power I mean the next President can just reverse it with an XO as well.

There isn't a court in the land that would uphold it. It's about the headlines Trump wants for fighting for his CT fringe nuts. And then a librul judge will block it and it will further the CT about the courts having a librul bias. He won't rush it to the Supreme Court because he knows it would be 9-0 to block it, he'll slow walk it to just make it look like he's fighting hard.

It will be very interesting to see what GOP in congress will say about this. I mean why wouldn't McConnell pass something like this if he had votes in the Senate?
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this puts President Hitler in a lose-lose situation because many of his supporters are "Hardcore Gamers" who frequently use the internet themselves, everytime he doesn't shit on his base the left is angry and everytime he actually does shit on his base and do stuff like this he loses supporters, i hope he loses the White House in 2020 and SOMEONE with Common Sense can take over, though to be fair not many Democrats seem to have it.
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this puts President Hitler in a lose-lose situation because many of his supporters are "Hardcore Gamers" who frequently use the internet themselves, everytime he doesn't shit on his base the left is angry and everytime he actually does shit on his base and do stuff like this he loses supporters, i hope he loses the White House in 2020 and SOMEONE with Common Sense can take over, though to be fair not many Democrats seem to have it.
Current politicians - Common Sense.

Pick one cause there is no way in hell we can get both.

I was wondering when the heavy handed shit would start with Trump. Surprisingly, it took a bit longer before he started making the plays I feared during his campaign.
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Current politicians - Common Sense.

Pick one cause there is no way in hell we can get both.
sadly you're right.

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