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If they're on public assistance they're not really pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, rather they're being held up by the government.

Most countries prefer immigrants to be wealthy and well educated. They don't want people who will be a burden, and many have a preference for immigrants from rich countries with have excellent education systems.

Norway in particular is a great example of a country most other countries would be delighted to have immigrants from. Norway is a fantastic country, very safe, excellent social welfare system, very well educated people etc., there's no good reason to turn them away. They're not going to go to a foreign country to cause trouble, take advantage of the public services etc., because the US justice system is based around fucking people's lives up (Norway rehabilitates you) and the public services, welfare etc. in Norway are among the best in the world. The only reason to immigrate from Norway to the US is to make money - generating tax revenue for the US - or because you love the US.

Wanting people from Norway isn't some uniquely Trumpian thing. There are over thirty countries to which Norwegians can freely immigrate to, no questions asked, so long as they have the means to support themselves (i.e. a job or savings).

Trump is a terrible, terrible President, but there doesn't seem to be anything unreasonable about preferring wealthy immigrants.
Except it going against everything America stands for. It's time to take that poem off the Statue of Liberty, Americans have lost all their values.
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Well America is supposed to be the land of opportunity where people pull themselves up by their bootstraps, poor people used to come here, work hard, saved and opened up small businesses. In fact, in inner cities a very large portion of small businesses are owned by immigrants. This is just another one of his anti- brown person policies, he only wants rich white people from Norway.

Whenever Trumpsters say he's only against illegal immigration point to this policy.
The policy clearly states that this will target those on public assistance, not the business owners you are referring to.

You cannot reasonably expect the taxpayers to foot the bill for every single person that immigrates to the country. After a given period of time you need to show that you are self reliant.
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Considering all the wonderful "utopias" the rest of the 1st world have and the US is told to be more like them.... those same people saying that are now screaming when the US actually marches closer to one of those countries' policies. Anyone ever look at immigrating to Canada for instance? Not the easiest path.

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Considering what he said about "S***hole countries" means he is against immigrants from countries he doesn't like. It's become strange how the U.S bombs countries, takes over resources of other countries and demands that other countries take in the displaced while they figure out what is going on there even though they have been there for years.
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Except it going against everything America stands for. It's time to take that poem off the Statue of Liberty, Americans have lost all their values.
You have a very romantic view of what America stands for.

That statue was never intended as a welcoming sign for immigrants. The US needed immigrants to exploit the land, increase the US's wealth and power. The immigrants happened to benefit from coming in as well, which is why some people romanticise immigration with that poem, but the reality is that the US never took them in out of some act of generosity or selflessness. It was pragmatism. Maybe they should take the poem off the statue, it's misleading.

What the US stands for, what the US has always stood for, first, foremost and to the exclusion of almost all else, is doing what's best for the US and its citizens. The same is true of every other country on the planet (although some of them care a lot less about the citizens).

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The policy clearly states that this will target those on public assistance, not the business owners you are referring to.

You cannot reasonably expect the taxpayers to foot the bill for every single person that immigrates to the country. After a given period of time you need to show that you are self reliant.
Did you even read the post? They're going to deny visas to people who aren't here yet for being too poor in addition to denying citizenship to people who are already here as legal, permanent residents who are on public assistance.

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Great

Give me a million educated middle class or higher immigrants a year who can fill the tax coffers instead of empty them

That way the deficit will only be 800 billion dollars a year instead of 1 trillion!

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But Trumps not racst right lol

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Great

Give me a million educated middle class or higher immigrants a year who can fill the tax coffers instead of empty them

That way the deficit will only be 800 billion dollars a year instead of 1 trillion!
Why on Earth would middle class or higher, educated, white Europeans want to come to this third world shit hole? If you're already doing well economically what would you gain by coming here?

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Did you even read the post? They're going to deny visas to people who aren't here yet for being too poor in addition to denying citizenship to people who are already here as legal, permanent residents who are on public assistance.
So then what does this have to do with them being brown? Poor is poor.

We already have enough poor people here as it is. We don't need any more, especially if they are going to demand public assistance.

This sounds pretty cut and dry. I don't see what the controversy is.
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