Originally Posted by HollyJollyDemise
This is a public forum. No one is exempt from being involved in a conversation. There is no "I wasn't talking to you" deal going on here. If you ask a question, you can't complain when someone you weren't talking to comes in and answers your question.
And if you didn't read the post, then how do you know it had nothing to do with what you were talking about?
He didn't make a false statement. So far, the tax cuts have done little to help the middle class overall. This can't be disputed.
Again, how is it immature? Lying is not okay, especially about how well the country is doing and/or your reasoning for doing something.
He is getting way more flack than Obama, and rightfully so. Obama had more working against him than Trump did, and he still got more accomplished in his first two years than Trump has in his first two. Hell by the end of his first year, Obama had already put an end to the recession and made it easier for people to go to college. So far Trump has been a significantly worse President than Obama and this can't really be argued. Trump has done a lot of the exact things he criticized Obama for doing, has failed on most of his promises, he's set America up for even worse conditions going forward. This was not the case when Obama left office.
I quoted headliner when asking a question, it wasn't a question in general. I didn't even ask you for input but your answer answered my question so I went with it, but fair enough, from now on I'll just go with someone jumping in when not quoted or asked.
As for the quote I didn't read, I read the first couple lines and then skimmed the rest, actually read it way later after I told him I didn't read it, to make sure, it had nothing to do with what I asked.
Your line on the tax cuts makes way more sense to me than "tax cuts didn't help the middle class", like I've said its prob semantics but it did help a small percentage and like I also said we are prob the exception. Either which way, I acknowledge that it has not helped the majority of the middle class, that's also been said when I said we work public not private sector so we don't have to deal with trickle down and there's more workers in private vs public, and by public I mean state or county, I'm not 100% onfederal level how those cuts worked.
As for lying, does there really need to be a count? And is this count accurate? Do these people listen to everything he says all day everyday?? No I wish trump wouldn't lie but some don't bother me since they don't effect anything, maybe this is the wrong approach. Ex.. He said something along the lines of democrats wanna bring caravan after caravan and give them free healthcare,medication, food, etc...I get this isn't true, I also think things like this would be better left unsaid, but it doesn't really effect anything. I just think it's dumb he'd say it. Obama told some, but they don't really have an effect so it doesn't really bother me.
Originally Posted by birthday_massacre
yes please try to stay in the facts vortex.
You seem to be the one with the reading comprehension problem.
You just got done saying
and now you are claiming you asked for that info but never gave it? And you wonder why I call you out for trolling.
I have already answered everything you are talking and spoke to these points.
I bitched about Obama all the time and what a fraud he was. I didn't even vote for Obama in his re-election. It's not a double standard. But nice strawman attempt.
Its amazing the lengths you go to to defend Trumps lies. No one gives a shit about him getting a date wrong or anything like that, he lies about way more important stuff than that.
Like I said, point out to me something Trump got shit for that was undeserved. You must have a huge list of them if you think most of these lies people get him for are petty.
Haha facts vortex...funny. The vortex I'm stuck in is repeating myself over and over bc you can't understand the original point. We are now debating trumps lies when this started off as an economic question about Obama/trump policies but some how we are here.
My original question FOR THE 100TH TIME, was directed at headliner when he said something along the lines of trump is still using obamas policies, so I asked if Obama could get some blame. Obamas policies from ten years ago have nothing to do with the current economy. If they do have anything to do with it, then he would share some blame for his policies doing this just like it would be trumps fault for not changing those policies or for trumps policies driving us here.
Again you quoted pretty much the same question I asked AND STILL HAVENT ANSWERED IT!! I'm not asking what obamas policies were I was asking what they had to do with the question I asked, the answer is nothing, but yes your comprehension skills are top notch.
I'm not going to great lengths to defend trumps lies, all I'm saying is most of them have zero effect on the US, or at least I don't think they do. I gave an example in previous post