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Any other ideas besides min wage hike and free college and health care? Im genuinely asking mostly because I didnt care much for him when he ran (though I liked him more than Hillary) so I didnt pay much attention other than hearing this.
You are the ones claiming his ideas are not popular, so why don't you tell me which ones aren't.

And you can't base one specific election and claim OH that means Bernie's ideas are not popular.

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You are the ones claiming his ideas are not popular, so why don't you tell me which ones aren't.

And you can't base one specific election and claim OH that means Bernie's ideas are not popular.
Um no I didnt say anything about his ideas, you said he has popular ideas. I was wondering if there was anything other than what I had listed or if it was just those 3 things.
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Um no I didnt say anything about his ideas, you said he has popular ideas. I was wondering if there was anything other than what I had listed or if it was just those 3 things.
If you want a few more, he wants money out of politics, break up the big banks, stricter gun control, better laws to protect against climate change, wants a more progressive tax plan, wants to withdraw for all these wars etc etc Those are just the ones off the top of my head

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Um no I didnt say anything about his ideas, you said he has popular ideas. I was wondering if there was anything other than what I had listed or if it was just those 3 things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...Bernie_Sanders

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I mean there's only so much naivety you can put in a post but this is pretty much full to the brim.

You really think after Trump people will care about the embezzlement? Trump paid 25 million dollars out because his University defrauded students. Trump has paved the way for any crook or sexual predator to be president as long as they appeal to a populist movement.

Right now, whether or not you think his platform is credible, the majority of the electorate do believe in it and they want it.

Free college is supported by the majority, medicare for all is supported by the majority, his anti-war stance is supported by the majority, his gun law reform is overwhelmingly supported. Your complete dismissal of the facts and presentation of purely subjective opinions and flawed assessments are noted.

I think one of the tell tale signs (to me) will be the gubernatorial race here in MD.

We are a blue state, and have a candidate Ben jealous who is a democrat, and has even said that he considers himself a socialist, and is also pushing for the $15 per hour minimum.

Right now he is behind, but if he loses, in a state like Maryland that has notoriously democratic, and minority, then I would assume Bernie and his ideas aren't as well received as most would think.

If he wins, then I would concede that maybe the Bern train might be more than what Republicans would let on
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Haha at no one should earn more than a million dollars (if this is accurate). And if the tax plan I just read on him from a 2016 article is correct, it looks horrible. Again, I am no tax expert just reading from an article on taxfoundation.org so if its a bogus site my apologies. I cant copy the article because of the chromebook I am on but if you google "bernie sanders tax plan" I think its the first one to come up, if you care to read about it.

It says there will be a 10.5% reduction in all tax payers' after tax income which is not good, to me anyways. Also a 2.2% tax for income based healthcare premium". I can get on board with that if I no longer have money taken out to pay for my health insurance, but overall it doesnt look too good. Again, I am far from a tax expert so if I am reading or understanding this wrong, please correct me.
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Haha at no one should earn more than a million dollars (if this is accurate). And if the tax plan I just read on him from a 2016 article is correct, it looks horrible. Again, I am no tax expert just reading from an article on taxfoundation.org so if its a bogus site my apologies. I cant copy the article because of the chromebook I am on but if you google "bernie sanders tax plan" I think its the first one to come up, if you care to read about it.

It says there will be a 10.5% reduction in all tax payers' after tax income which is not good, to me anyways. Also a 2.2% tax for income based healthcare premium". I can get on board with that if I no longer have money taken out to pay for my health insurance, but overall it doesnt look too good. Again, I am far from a tax expert so if I am reading or understanding this wrong, please correct me.
Pretty sure you are taking that out of context. Where did you see that? I have heard Sanders say no CEO should earn more than 1000 times its employees.

You said you are no tax expert so how do you know his tax plan is not good ? That being said do you think the current GOP tax plan Trump put into place is good? You know the one that is going to crash the economy.

Here is his tax plan


https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/

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Pretty sure you are taking that out of context. Where did you see that? I have heard Sanders say no CEO should earn more than 1000 times its employees.

You said you are no tax expert so how do you know his tax plan is not good ? That being said do you think the current GOP tax plan Trump put into place is good? You know the one that is going to crash the economy.

Here is his tax plan


https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
Well I have seen a bump in pay since Trumps plan started and this one is saying I will be paying more in taxes, thus losing money. So I am in favor of the one that says I get more money.

Im still out on the economy crash. I think some of yall have said it will happen within the next year or two. If it happens then we can re evaluate but until then, if it even happens, I am a big fan of the current plan.
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Pretty sure you are taking that out of context. Where did you see that? I have heard Sanders say no CEO should earn more than 1000 times its employees.

You said you are no tax expert so how do you know his tax plan is not good ? That being said do you think the current GOP tax plan Trump put into place is good? You know the one that is going to crash the economy.

Here is his tax plan


https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
His million dollar quote is in the wiki article so I went to the article it references and it required me to pay to see the whole article so I didnt see if it was 100% accurate. If its not accurate then I take it back, Im in a bit of a hurry and didnt have a chance to look into it fully.
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His million dollar quote is in the wiki article so I went to the article it references and it required me to pay to see the whole article so I didnt see if it was 100% accurate. If its not accurate then I take it back, Im in a bit of a hurry and didnt have a chance to look into it fully.
If true, did you happen to see what year he said that lol? It was 1974. he has never said anything like that currently that I have seen. To put that in perspective, the average salary in 1974 was 8,000 per year.

I guess you can say him saying no CEO should make 1000x that of their average employee is similar. But when you look at it in 1974 terms of making $1m per year vs the average person making 8,000. do you think he is wrong?


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