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The laws are fair. A private business owner should have the right to do business (or not) with anyone they choose. Walk in my store and I don't like the look on your face, I should have the right to tell you to fuck off. Let the free market work its magic and those people will soon be out of business.
This is mostly my view, however I also think they should have to advertise their bigotry with some kind of sign. A big c whites only would certainly see a shop die very very quickly.

I do think that a business that is receiving state support such as a church not paying taxes should not be able to do this.

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This is mostly my view, however I also think they should have to advertise their bigotry with some kind of sign. A big c whites only would certainly see a shop die very very quickly.

I do think that a business that is receiving state support such as a church not paying taxes should not be able to do this.
Agreed. If you're supported in any way by tax dollars, you cannot discriminate.

As for having to openly advertise discriminatory practices, I think that would have been necessary in the past, but in the age of deh interwebs and social media, the word gets out VERY quickly about businesses that anger even a relatively small slice of the general public.

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Ah yes, the Christian "race." Clearly some well-adjusted people right there.
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I think I am misreading this, but isn't this saying they're turning down a gay couple, but would have no problems with mixed race? From the comments I am assuming I am misreading this. Either way, it's 2019 and that's bogus, but business owners can do what they want and it is only costing them money. While I don't agree with not allowing gay marriage, I at least can understand why they're doing it. Different races makes no sense though and I can't think of any justification they'd have. Before I get screamed at again I don't agree with what they're doing, but understand.
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As a black man with a white wife I would much rather the bigots be up front with me with their bigotry. Tell me your backwater beliefs so I can take my money elsewhere
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I think I am misreading this, but isn't this saying they're turning down a gay couple, but would have no problems with mixed race? From the comments I am assuming I am misreading this. Either way, it's 2019 and that's bogus, but business owners can do what they want and it is only costing them money. While I don't agree with not allowing gay marriage, I at least can understand why they're doing it. Different races makes no sense though and I can't think of any justification they'd have. Before I get screamed at again I don't agree with what they're doing, but understand.
Well, the problem with letting businesses do whatever they want is that America has already tried this and it resulted in extreme violence against non-whites over several decades. We cannot ignore the lessons of the past.

You cannot forget the mass lynchings that used to occur when racists had more power, therefore continuing to give them more power again is a terrible idea because they don't just want segregation peacefully, they demand that law enforcement (which we know in this country is racist as a whole) will enforce the segregation in favor of the businesses violently.

You let businesses serve whoever the fuck they want, and trust me they will call the cops and there will be deaths.


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Apparently she was misinformed. She posted some apology thing on social media but still absolutely stupid. If you are going to believe in God at least be well informed on your faiths beliefs.
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Apparently she was misinformed. She posted some apology thing on social media but still absolutely stupid. If you are going to believe in God at least be well informed on your faiths beliefs.
Well, racism is considered a matter of faith in some parts of the deep south. Yes, it's wrong. Religion does not actually justify segregation or racism, but it does not stop people from believing it does and for them to be assholes to others they simply need to believe something is a matter of faith even if it is or isn't. That becomes irrelevant.

What religion actually says is completely irrelevant to what people believe it says and do as a consequence of their beliefs.

Can't blame the religion itself, but definitely can blame the entirety of notions of "faith" that goes into creating the mindless zealot who does things in its name.
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Plus, religious freedom in America has meant ant-science, faith healing, anti-vaxxing as well. People use it to justify letting children die instead of letting them have transfusions. Letting them die instead of giving them tetanus shots. It has even allowed Female Genital Mutilation to go unpunished. Etc. It's a huge mess and religious freedom is used to justify just about any cockamamie belief they can pigeon hole into their "religious beliefs"

Religious Freedom here means something very different from what it actually implies or implied even when this country was created.
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