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post #91 of 188 (permalink) Old 09-16-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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This shit is so unbelievable that if you wrote it in a novel, it would panned as being too far-fetched. There are so many glaring plot holes that it beggars belief the police officers story could even be taken seriously, let alone taken as truth.
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post #92 of 188 (permalink) Old 11-30-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Re: Cop forgets where she lives, shoots & kills someone

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Dallas Grand Jury Indicts Amber Guyger On Murder Charge For Killing Botham Jean

A grand jury in Dallas on Friday returned an indictment to charge former police officer Amber Guyger with murder for killing Botham Jean in his own apartment in September. The panel reportedly decided there was enough evidence to show the manslaughter charges Guyger was initially facing were not strong enough for shooting an innocent, unarmed Black man to death after she illegally entered his apartment.

Shortly after the grand jury returned an indictment, Guyger was reportedly being booked into custody.

The news offered hope to Jean’s family that Guyger would not get off with a light punishment for killing their loved one under the most auspicious of circumstances. If convicted, Guyger could spend the rest of her life in prison.

The tense anticipation ahead of Friday’s announcement lasted all week, as the grand jury convened for three days beginning Monday. Jean’s family could be seen at the Dallas County district attorneys office ahead of the announcement, in a sign that it would be coming down on Friday.

There was a considerable amount of skepticism as the grand jury finally met more than three months after Guyger, 30, killed Botham Jean, 26. On the night of Sept. 6, she illegally entered his apartment, which was located one floor above her own, and shot Jean to death — that much has been established as true. But everything else that transpired during that fatal episode was not exactly clear, with only Guyger’s word to go on.

She claimed that following a long day on the job as a Dallas police officer, she implausibly mistook his apartment for her own and, after ordering Jean not to move, shot him twice before realizing the error of her ways. Her story was greeted by doubt because of a number of factors, especially her assertion that Jean’s door was ajar. Videos posted on social media by neighbors appeared to show that apartment doors in the building shut automatically, which seemed to indicate that Guyger was lying.

In addition to the inconsistencies in her alibis, which have changed several times, Dallas police, of which Guyger was a member for five years before being fired, appeared to be helping to cover up the shooting for their colleague. The department was accused of allowing Guyger enough time to scrub her social media accounts and get her story straight before turning herself in three days after killing Jean. It also gave Guyger enough time to move out of her apartment, which was never searched by police despite five warrants allowing them to do so.

Guyger was ultimately arrested and charged with manslaughter, which many felt was insufficient considering the nature of the shooting. The charge, which was more than a month after the shooting, came after Dallas Police Chief U Renee Hall claimed she was “prohibited” from firing Guyger.

Murder charges against a police officer are notoriously hard to prosecute. There are roughly 1,000 police shootings every year in the United States, but officers seldom face justice. According to CNN, only 80 cops were arrested on murder or manslaughter charges for on-duty shootings between 2005 and April 2017. However, only 35 percent of those arrests led to convictions in that 12-year period.

In one of those rare instances, former Dallas police officer Roy Oliver was in August found guilty of murder in the 2017 shooting of a Black teenager, Jordan Edwards.

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson, who was accused of bungling the case from the beginning, remained on the case weeks after her losing on Election Day to John Creuzot, a Black Democrat who said he would have charged Guyger with murder. But in a sign that may bode well for Guyger, Oliver was sentenced to just 15 years, with the possibility of parole after serving seven and a half.

Johnson’s predecessor, former Dallas County DA Craig Watkins, told NewsOne recently that manslaughter charges may be easier to prove than murder and offered some words of caution for Creuzot, whose office will ultimately inherit the case after he’s inaugurated next year.

“It’s a precarious situation to make a statement that it should be a murder case without knowing the facts,” Watkins said last week.
I'm a little worried that this is another case of a prosecutor pushing for murder instead of manslaughter knowing that they can't prove it and the cop will go free.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Thanks for the update ton.
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Re: Cop forgets where she lives, shoots & kills someone

I knew someone who was sitting on his couch and someone had walked in to his place, thinking it was theirs. He never left the door unlocked ever again.

I've tried to put my key in an apartment door that wasn't mine. It happens, people are tired.

Not trying to make a good excuse, just saying, fuck ups happen, and, it sadly cost someone.

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I'm a little worried that this is another case of a prosecutor pushing for murder instead of manslaughter knowing that they can't prove it and the cop will go free.

Hope I'm wrong.
I sometimes wonder if they do it deliberately as a loophole?

In order to prove murder dont you have to show intent to murder? Umm. They don't have motive here. So why are they even thinking it's possible to get a conviction?
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Yeah she is walking overcharging again.

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a little worried that this is another case of a prosecutor pushing for murder instead of manslaughter knowing that they can't prove it and the cop will go free.

Hope I'm wrong.
You're not the first person I've heard express that thought or fear.

I'm 90% sure that's what's going to happen too.

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I sometimes wonder if they do it deliberately as a loophole?

In order to prove murder dont you have to show intent to murder? Umm. They don't have motive here. So why are they even thinking it's possible to get a conviction?
I was thinking this too!

Makes me wonder if they overcharge knowing it will never stick and cannot be proven and it's just done to make it look like they're doing something.

When it fails, they just shrug and say "We tried".
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Re: Cop forgets where she lives, shoots & kills someone

Here I was thinking it was good news that her charge has been upgraded to murder.

But the concerns expressed are valid, the Justice System is a joke.

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What the fuck is this. It seems fake at this point lol. Problem is, it's actually real.

I really can't wrap my head around it. Everything makes 0 sense.

EDIT : I think they're charging murder instead of manslaughter, not only because it offers more chances of her getting of easy, but also because there is pressure for the highest punishment possible even though it doesn't make sense legally. So even if they fail to convict her for murder, they can land on the "yeah but people would be upset if we only went for manslaughter".

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