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David Cameron made a calculated gamble.

He called the Scottish referendum to cripple the Lib Dem and Labour vote in Scotland by stoking Scottish nationalism.

He called the EU referendum in an attempt to cripple UKIP and the persistent thorn in the side of the Tories in their euroskeptic wing.

This entire mess is down to an arrogant Prime Minister who saw an opportunity to secure a Tory government for years by undercutting all his political rivals who has left this country with a complete mess whilst he simply faded away into the background, leaving the rest of us to tidy up the chaos.

David Cameron should be a social pariah, widely condemned and blamed for this absolute shit show, instead he's been able to silently fade away, the victim of a few pig related jibes.
Cameron's fuck up only allowed the vultures to start creating the carcass they're going to pick over tbh. His move was a bad one, but the true "villains" here are the ones who actually pushed it through and the ways they've been continually making millions (through short-selling the pound and cashing in via their hedge funds) whilst everybody else feels the negative effects on the economy. Once the economy is in the toilet they'll make even more when they asset-strip the nation with the convenient excuse of "well, we didn't know this would happen because of Brexit (you did) but we're going to have to sell everything now to cope." Only the uneducated fools like @Seb think there was ever a good end-result for the country and not just a small group of elites who can make serious bank on the wholesale destruction of a nation's economy and credibility.
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Cameron's fuck up only allowed the vultures to start creating the carcass they're going to pick over tbh. His move was a bad one, but the true "villains" here are the ones who actually pushed it through and the ways they've been continually making millions (through short-selling the pound and cashing in via their hedge funds) whilst everybody else feels the negative effects on the economy. Once the economy is in the toilet they'll make even more when they asset-strip the nation with the convenient excuse of "well, we didn't know this would happen because of Brexit (you did) but we're going to have to sell everything now to cope." Only the uneducated fools like @Seb think there was ever a good end-result for the country and not just a small group of elites who can make serious bank on the wholesale destruction of a nation's economy and credibility.
Of course, there is a reason they keep hammering home "will of the people" (despite it being a slim margin and more people didn't or couldn't vote), it is so in a few years time, when the economy tanks and they begin to asset strip more public services like the NHS they can hide it behind "people experiencing the consequences of their choices, they voted for this, so they need to ride through the storm, they knew what they were voting for" etc.

The more they keep drilling it into our collective heads that this is democracy, will of the people etc they can also then spin the blame on us and have us divided and fighting each other when shit hits the fan, too distracted to go after the absolute bastards who engineered it all.

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Thats pretty much what I meant though, cameron basically wanted a vote to confirm that people wanted to remain in europe they could happily move on from the whole europe debate then it all did a left turn. I highly doubt he wouldve even of entertained the idea if there was sufficient doubt that the vote would go to leave (same happened recently with the snap election as a power grab that fucked things up more when it didnt go as planned).

goes without saying that politicians are spineless bastards. A doctor doesnt "throw out a vote" to the public on whether someone needs heart surgery or not, they judge it based on their own knowledge and expertise in the medical field, why should we make a decision to leave europe? do it your fucking self. You know the country and its economy better than "dave" from the local butchers.
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Thats pretty much what I meant though, cameron basically wanted a vote to confirm that people wanted to remain in europe they could happily move on from the whole europe debate then it all did a left turn. I highly doubt he wouldve even of entertained the idea if there was sufficient doubt that the vote would go to leave (same happened recently with the snap election as a power grab that fucked things up more when it didnt go as planned).

goes without saying that politicians are spineless bastards. A doctor doesnt "throw out a vote" to the public on whether someone needs heart surgery or not, they judge it based on their own knowledge and expertise in the medical field, why should we make a decision to leave europe? do it your fucking self. You know the country and its economy better than "dave" from the local butchers.
Actually a lot of them don't, that's the biggest problem with politics. A significant portion of politicians are just wealthy people who convinced people to vote for them, they're not experts. There are some INCREDIBLY competent politicians too (Vince Cable's one tbh) but politics is one of the very few "industries" where you can blag your way into a job by chatting shit and still keep the job when you don't perform because all you have to do is continue blagging. Enough money and/or charisma and any old retard can get elected, it's less about competence and more about the ability to persuade people that you're their guy. Boris Johnson has a friggin 2:1 in Classics, his "skills" are in his character - he actually pretended to be a liberal at Oxford in order to get elected president of the Union, he's been convincing working class people to buy into his crap since he was a student. What we need are more politicians who are less bothered about the money they can make and the people they can influence and are more bothered about the country and utilising the skills they studied their lives for. We do have a lot of those, but they're very rarely the ones with power in the 2 big parties. Politics is fucked, it pays better to be good looking or charismatic than it does to be a god damned genius and expert in your field. It's basically pro wrestling but the fights are proper shit.
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Only the uneducated fools like @Seb think there was ever a good end-result for the country and not just a small group of elites who can make serious bank on the wholesale destruction of a nation's economy and credibility.
I didn't even vote leave you absolute cabbage. I just think some of the fear mongering going round is massively OTT.

Nice job assuming i'm uneducated as well (you're throwing assumptions all over the place here) just because I don't think leaving a political union is going to be the "wholesale destruction of a nation's economy and credibility".

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I didn't even vote leave you absolute cabbage.
Thus proving my point that you're both uneducated and the bearer of an invalid opinion. Thanks for letting everybody know you're irrelevant to the discussion because you don't really understand any of it.

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I didn't even vote leave you absolute cabbage. I just think some of the fear mongering going round is massively OTT.

Nice job assuming i'm uneducated as well (you're throwing assumptions all over the place here) just because I don't think leaving a political union is going to be the "wholesale destruction of a nation's economy and credibility".
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Thus proving my point that you're both uneducated and the bearer of an invalid opinion. Thanks for letting everybody know you're irrelevant to the discussion because you don't really understand any of it.
You've made assumptions that I voted leave (I didn't) and that i'm uneducated (i'm not) and now you've decided that I don't understand what's going on, purely because i'm not going ridiculously over the top about what leaving the EU will mean for the country.

Glad we both know where we stand.
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Not a big fan of the Guardian but they're pretty on point here.
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I've changed my mind on Brexit!!! I am now convinced that immigration is a major problem.

Look at the latest foreigner we let in:


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