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UPDATE 2: Man killed by police in swatting hoax over $1 or $2 Call of Duty bet. Hoaxer charged with involuntary manslaughter. Cop not charged.

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Two gamers argue over $1-2 C.O.D. bet. Gamer One threatens too swat Gamer Two. Gamer Two says go ahead and gives him fake address. Gamer One calls 911 and says he just murdered his father, is holding his mother and sister hostage, and has a gun. Then he gives 911 operator the false address. Police show up at address and order resident out of house. Resident comes out to porch. Police claim he dropped his hand to his waistband and then popped his hands back up. Cop across the street thought he had a gun, was pointing it at other officers, and then shot him dead. Resident was unarmed.



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Police release ‘swatting’ call, video of man being shot to death as a result of hoax

Wichita police say a man who was fatally shot by an officer Thursday evening was unarmed but had put his hands by his waistband multiple times during commands to raise them.

On Friday afternoon, Deputy Police Chief Troy Livingston went through a timeline of events and released audio of the 911 call and what dispatchers relayed to officers.

The shooting happened at 1033 W. McCormick.

In the 911 call, a man told dispatchers he had shot his father and was holding his mother and sibling hostage. Livingston said the call was a “swatting” hoax.
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Swatting happens when someone makes a call to a police department with a false story of an ongoing crime – often with killing or hostages involved – in an attempt to draw a large number of police officers to a particular address.

Swatting has gained traction across the country with online gamers. Those who try to cause the swatting incident will use caller ID spoofing or other techniques to disguise their number as being local. Or they call local non-emergency numbers instead of 911, according to 911.gov.
The call

At 6:18 p.m., an officer working at City Hall received a call from an unknown man who said there was a disturbance with his father. When dispatchers spoke with the caller, he said he got into an argument with his mother and shot his father.

“They were arguing and I shot him in the head, and he’s not breathing anymore,” the caller said.

Asked if he had any weapons on him, the caller said, “Yeah I do.”

He then said he was standing by his mother’s closet holding a black handgun.

“I’m just pointing the gun at them, making sure they stay in the closet,” the caller said.

When the dispatcher asked if he could put the gun down, he said no. He then made further threats.

“I already poured gasoline all over the house, I might just set it on fire,” he told the dispatcher. “Do you have my address correct?”

“It’s giving me anxiety, making me paranoid,” he said.

When the dispatcher asked if the man was white, black, Asian or Hispanic, heavy breathing could be heard. Then the call disconnected.

Officers arrive

As officers arrived to 1033 W. McCormick, Livingston said they were prepared for a hostage situation and were posted on the east, west and north sides of the house.

However, there was no hostage situation and family members of the man shot — identified by family as Andrew “Andy” Finch — said he doesn’t play video games.

His mother, Lisa Finch, said Finch saw police lights outside, and opened the door to see what happened. She heard him scream, then said she heard one shot fired.

Livingston provided this account of what happened when Finch opened the door:

“Officers gave him several verbal commands to put his hands up and walk towards them. The male complied for a very short time and then put his hands back down to his waist. The officers continued to give him verbal commands to put his hands up, and he lowered them again.

“The male then turned towards the officers on the east side of the residence, lowered his hands to the waistband again, then suddenly pulled them back up towards those officers at the east.

“The officers on the north side of the street feared the male pulled a weapon from his waistband, retrieved a gun and was in the process of pointing it at the officers to the east. Fearing for those officers’ safety, the officer on the north side fired one round.”

Officers removed four people from the house and then searched it. They discovered there were no hostages or deceased people, Livingston said. Emergency medical crews were standing nearby, he said.

“They can’t go in and treat somebody until the house is cleared and made safe,” he said. “An individual was shot at 6:47 and was at the hospital in about 17 minutes.”

'Swatting' led to fatal shooting of Andrew Finch, police say

“Tragic and senseless”

The shooting was a tragic and senseless act, Livingston said.

“The irresponsible acts of a prankster put people’s lives at risk,” he said. “The incident is a nightmare for everyone involved, including the family and our police department. Due to the action of a prankster, we have an innocent victim. If the false police call had not been made, we would not have been there.”

Wichita police are working with federal authorities to locate the person who made the 911 phone call, he said. He declined to comment on where the caller might live.

Officers have been following up on leads found through social media, he said.

On Twitter, more than a dozen people who identified themselves as being in the gaming community told The Eagle that a feud between two “Call of Duty” players sparked one to initiate a “swatting” call.

After news began to spread about what happened Thursday night, the people in the gaming community, through Twitter posts, pointed at two gamers.

“I DIDNT GET ANYONE KILLED BECAUSE I DIDNT DISCHARGE A WEAPON AND BEING A SWAT MEMBER ISNT MY PROFESSION,” said one gamer, who others said made the swatting call. His account was suspended overnight.

According to posts on Twitter, two gamers were arguing when one threatened to target the other with a swatting call. The person who was the target of the swatting gave the other gamer a false address, which sent police to a nearby home instead of his own, according to Twitter posts.

The person who was to be the target of the swatting sent a Tweet saying, “Someone tried to swat me and got an innocent man killed.”

Dexerto, a online news service focused on gaming and the “Call of Duty” game, reported the argument began over a $1 or $2 wager over the game.

This is, Livingston said, the first time in his memory that Wichita police have dealt with a “swatting” call. If they have happened before, Livingston said, they didn’t rise to this level.

“This prank phone call, we don’t see it as a prank,” he said. “It only heightened the awareness of the officers, which we think led to this deadly encounter.”
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Adding hoaxer's responses on twitter. Also, claimed to have called in multiple bomb threats.

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...Not long after that, Swautistic was back on Twitter saying he could see on television that the police had fallen for his swatting attack. When it became apparent that a man had been killed as a result of the swatting, Swautistic tweeted that he didn’t get anyone killed because he didn’t pull the trigger (see image above).

Swautistic soon changed his Twitter handle to @GoredTutor36, but KrebsOnSecurity managed to obtain several weeks’ worth of tweets from Swautistic before his account was renamed. Those tweets indicate that Swautistic is a serial swatter — meaning he has claimed responsibility for a number of other recent false reports to the police.

Among the recent hoaxes he’s taken credit for include a false report of a bomb threat at the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) that disrupted a high-profile public meeting on the net neutrality debate. Swautistic also has claimed responsibility for a hoax bomb threat that forced the evacuation of the Dallas Convention Center, and another bomb threat at a high school in Panama City, Fla, among others.

After tweeting about the incident extensively this afternoon, KrebsOnSecurity was contacted by someone in control of the @GoredTutor36 Twitter account. GoredTutor36 said he’s been the victim of swatting attempts himself, and that this was the reason he decided to start swatting others.

He said the thrill of it “comes from having to hide from police via net connections.” Asked about the FCC incident, @GoredTutor36 acknowledged it was his bomb threat. “Yep. Raped em,” he wrote.

“Bomb threats are more fun and cooler than swats in my opinion and I should have just stuck to that,” he wrote. “But I began making $ doing some swat requests.”

Asked whether he feels remorse about the Kansas man’s death, he responded “of course I do.”

But evidently not enough to make him turn himself in.

“I won’t disclose my identity until it happens on its own,” the user said in a long series of direct messages on Twitter. “People will eventually (most likely those who know me) tell me to turn myself in or something. I can’t do that; though I know its [sic] morally right. I’m too scared admittedly.”
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LAPD: Los Angeles man arrested in connection to deadly 'swatting' call in Wichita



WICHITA, Kan. Update 12:25 p.m.
City of Glendale, Calif.

The LA County Sheriff's Department lists Tyler Barriss, 25, arrested at 3:15 p.m. Friday local time in Los Angeles on a felony charge.

The booking report doesn't specifically list the exact charge at this time.

Barriss was booked into county jail at 11:25 p.m. Friday. The booking sheet does not list a bail amount.

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Update 11:40 p.m.:

The Los Angeles Police Department confirms it's arrested 25-year-old Tyler Barriss, of Los Angeles, in connection with Thursday night's deadly "swatting" call in Wichita.

The LAPD says Barriss was arrested Friday afternoon.

Information from the City of Glendale, Calif. shows that in October 2015,

Barriss was arrested in connection with making a bomb threat to ABC Studios in Glendale.
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Tyler Barriss charged with involuntary manslaughter in Wichita swatting

The man accused of making a false report to Wichita police that ended in an officer fatally shooting a 28-year-old man was charged with involuntary manslaughter, reporting a false alarm and interference with a law enforcement officer in his first court appearance in Wichita.

His bond was set at $500,000.

Tyler Barriss, 25, was arrested in South Los Angeles on Dec. 29, less than 24 hours after someone called Wichita police claiming there was a homicide and hostage situation at 1033 W. McCormick. A man inside the home — identified by his family as Andrew Finch — opened his door to see why police were outside and was shot by an officer who was in a driveway across the street.

Barriss waived extradition to Kansas last week. He was booked into the Sedgwick County Jail on Thursday afternoon. On a financial affidavit filed Friday, Barriss wrote that he had no address, is unemployed and has not worked in the past 6 months.

During his second short court appearance since his arrest, Barriss was asked to confirm his identity. Asked if he had any questions after his charge was formally read, Barriss answered, “no, I don’t.”

Barriss’ next court appearance will be later this month.

Asked what is happening with the other investigation in the case, involving the shooting, District Attorney Marc Bennett said it’s “still under review by me.”

“Once I make a determination, that will be made public either through charges or through a press conference like I normally do,” he said.

There’s no timeline for when a decision determining if the officer’s action were reasonable will be made, he said.

The case, Bennett said, has been unique and there’s not a lot of previous case law to reference. For that reason, the investigation remains ongoing and the charges against Barriss could be modified.

“I’ll continue to analyze this case,” he said. “While it seems like it’s been in the news now for a long time, hashed and rehashed, in reality, the homicide investigation is still in the early stages.”

The media interest in the story speaks volumes of its uniqueness, Bennett said. A journalist from Germany was at the hearing Friday.

UPDATE 2:


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Wichita police officer who fired fatal shot after swatting call won't face charges

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The Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges, District Attorney Marc Bennett said Thursday.

Bennett said he had to make a determination based on Kansas law and law handed down by the Supreme Court, which says that when determining if an officer acted reasonably, evidence has to be reviewed based on what the officer knew at the time of the shooting, not 20/20 hindsight, he said.

The Wichita Police Department released videos during a press conference on April 12, 2018. District Attorney Marc Bennett said the Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges. Jaime Green

The officer, whom the reports refers to as "Officer #1," will not be named since he's not being charged, Bennett said.

Wichita police went to Finch’s house just after 6:15 p.m. on Dec. 28 after receiving a false call about a murder and hostage situation inside.

Officers didn’t know the report was false, Bennett said, and had arrived at the house with information that two people were being held at gunpoint, and the shooter wasn’t going to lower his weapon, according to dispatch records that were released the next day.

Instead, Finch, 28, was inside with his family and a roommate. Finch opened his front door when he saw police lights outside and didn’t know why, his mom, Lisa, told reporters the day after the shooting. Wichita police have said he was given commands to keep his hands raised, but say he reached toward his waistline multiple times.

When he reached his hands up suddenly, police say, a officer who was standing in a driveway across the street from Finch shot him.

The Wichita Police Department released videos during a press conference on April 12, 2018. District Attorney Marc Bennett said the Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges. Jaime Green

Bennett reviewed more than 80 pieces of video evidence and interviewed every officer who was at Finch's house, including ones from the Sedgwick County Sheriff's Office. He said officers who were closer to Finch thought he reached down to pull up his pants. At one point, Finch's right arm was not visible to other officers.

"This shooting should not have happened," he said. "But this officer’s decision was made in the context of the false call."
The 911 call

Records provided by Sedgwick County Emergency services reflect that the first 911 happened just after 6:15 p.m. A male caller told dispatch that he shot his dad and was inside 1033 W. McCormick.

At 6:19 p.m., officers were notified that a shooting had occurred. Forty-two seconds after the initial dispatch was made, dispatch told officers that the caller "did shoot his dad in the head, he is not breathing. He's also indicating that his mom and brother are in the house and he has them at gunpoint."

The caller told 911 that he was holding the gun and wouldn't drop it.

Bennett said that when officers swarmed Finch's house, they had reason to believe there was an armed man inside.

Wichita police released a portion of that call the day after the shooting. In the recording, the caller says he's in a one-story house. Finch's house was two stories.

Bennett confirmed during a news conference Thursday that that conversation happened during a second call with 911, 10 minutes after Finch was shot.

The Wichita Police Department released videos during a press conference on April 12, 2018. District Attorney Marc Bennett said the Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges. Jaime Green

The shooting


The first officer to Finch's house was a 17-year veteran and sergeant of the Wichita Police Department. He directed officers to cover the north side of Finch's house and to block the street, Bennett's report says.

He directed the officer who fired the shot -- only referred to in the report as "officer #1" -- to move to the front of the house because he wanted "a rifle for long cover."

Finch's mother, Lisa, told reporters the day after her son was shot that he opened the door after noticing police lights outside.

At 6:28 p.m., an officer states over the radio, "we got the front door open."

When Finch opened the door, multiple officers began yelling, "let me see your hands" and "come out here," the report says.

"Thinking it would be better for the male to focus away from the officers staged to the east, Sgt. #1 began 'Screaming louder for this guy to, to walk towards me,'" the report says.

The sergeant pulled out his handgun as soon as Finch stepped into the doorway, then "recognized that he was too far to, 'be taking a shot from that distance,' with a handgun."

The Wichita Police Department released videos during a press conference on April 12, 2018. District Attorney Marc Bennett said the Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges. Courtesy of District Attorney Marc BennettCandi Bolden

The sergeant said Finch's hands appeared to be in front of him until "his right hand came down a little bit to his side and that's when everyone screamed louder."

He glanced away to where other officers were standing and heard the crack of the rifle.

Finch was shot 10 seconds after he opened the door.

"Shots fired. One Down. Confirming. It's the suspect?" dispatch asks.

"Don't know," a WPD sergeant responds, according to a report released by Bennett.

Bennett said Thursday that some officers thought Finch was reaching for a gun. Others said he wasn't in their view because he positioned his body back inside the house. His hand was on his storm door when the shot was fired, and the bullet ricocheted into him, Bennett said.

An autopsy report says Finch was hit by multiple bullet fragments.

The Wichita Police Department released videos during a press conference on April 12, 2018. District Attorney Marc Bennett said the Wichita police officer who fired the shot that killed Andrew Finch after a swatting call will not face charges. Courtesy of District Attorney Marc BennettCandi Bolden

No charges

The officer who fired the shot told investigators that he thought Finch was the man who told dispatchers he had killed his father, and was holding his mother and a sibling hostage, Bennett said.

He said in an interview that he saw a silhouette of a person through an upstairs window. The person appeared to be bending over and moving up and down. Another officer said he thought it looked like someone was conducting CPR, the report says.

The officer who shot Finch agreed.

When Finch stepped onto his porch, the officer said he was looking through the scope on his rifle. He heard officers command Finch to show his hands.

The officer told investigators that he saw Finch throw "his hands up very quickly" to about ear-level, "and almost as soon as he puts his hands up, he brings them back down." The officer said he saw Finch "reach back with his right hand and lift 'the side of his sweatshirt or jacket or whatever it is that's he's wearing'" to his side.

He thought Finch was pulling out a gun, the report says.

The officer said, “At the same time that his hand starts to come up and that when I’m like okay he’s, he’s ‘gonna fire at officers. I believe that I see a, a gun in his hand and as the, that’s being raised at the officers and at that point that’s when I decide to protect those officers and their lives and safety, I fire one round at this individual.”

Bennett said, "In isolation, the mere movement of a subject’s hands may not be reasonably interpreted as a threat."

"However, the context of this case is wholly unique. Officer #1 was there, positioned with a rifle to offer cover for the officers to the east, because he and other law enforcement officers had been dispatched to the scene to confront a man who claimed to have shot his father in the head and who was actively holding his mother and sibling hostage," Bennett said. "What is now clear, was not in that moment. The call was a hoax, ostensibly intended to draw a law enforcement presence to the residence. None of the officers on the scene in that moment knew this."


Sedgwick County District Attorney Marc Bennett said that the Wichita police officer who shot Andrew Finch during a swatting incident in late December will not be charged. Fernando Salazar

The Wichita Police Department released a statement saying, "This incident has weighed on the hearts of the WPD and community. Chief Gordon Ramsay and the WPD continue to extend sympathy to the Finch family and the officers involved."

An internal investigation will be done to make sure policies and training were followed. The Citizens Review Board will also review the case.

Finch's family

Attorney Andrew M. Stroth said he informed Finch's mother, Lisa, shortly after he got word that Bennett wouldn't be filing charges against the officer.

"When we received the information from the district attorney, I called Lisa and told her the decision," said Stroth, who is representing the family in a federal civil-rights lawsuit against the city of Wichita and the Police Department.

"The family's devastated and the family is disappointed by the decision of the district attorney today," he said.

He said Bennett's decision won't affect the civil case.

"The criminal standard (in court) is very different from the civil standard," he said. "The lack of indictment today, from our perspective . . . has zero impact on the civil case."

He said police body camera video shows the shooting wasn't justified. "It is our perspective that the video (shows) that there is no threat to the officers or anyone else," he said. "Andrew Finch had nothing to do with the swatting call or the prank call and he was an innocent victim of a completely unreasonable and unjustified use of force."

The shooting of Finch has mobilized a determined group of activists who have addressed the City Council about the case almost every week since it happened.

One of the leaders of that group, Michael Mihalakis, best known as Meko Haze of the online media site Daily Haze, said Bennett's decision was "unexpected and sudden."

"Advocates for the victim's family feel his (Bennett's) office should face heavy scrutiny for this rash and unjust decision," he said.

He was the first to publicly identify the officer who the activists believe fired the fatal shot, information which has not been officially confirmed by the police or the district attorney.

He also contrasted Bennett's decision with the case of former Wichita Ofcr. Dexter Betts, who was fired from the department and charged with felony aggravated battery after injuring a 9-year-old girl while shooting at her family dog.

"A black man who shot a dog was quickly indicted, but Andrew Finch's killer walks free." he said. "This decision doesn't feel like justice."
The caller

The person charged with making the false call - Tyler Barriss, 25, of Los Angeles - has been charged with involuntary manslaughter. He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing on May 22.

Reports say Barriss was called by someone after a feud between two Call of Duty players broke out over a virtual “friendly kill” during a game earlier that day. There was a $1.50 wager over the game.

One of the players allegedly called Barriss and requested he “swat” another player.

While speaking with reporters after the shooting, Finch's mother, Lisa, said her son doesn't play video games and wasn't involved in the feud. Her family has since filed a federal lawsuit against Wichita and the Police Department.

The two other gamers allegedly involved in the initial game have not been charged with a crime.

Wichita police converged on a house at 1033 W. McCormick on Dec. 28, responding to fake 911 call. Here’s a breakdown of how the call and police actions occurred. McClatchy
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I dont know where to start.

The fucking morons who think Swatting is cool.

The cunt who gave out a false address.

The cunt who actually called the cops.

The undertrained, trigger happy, murderous Police Officer who murdered and innocent and unarmed man.

I mean c'mon a god damn Swat team turns up at your house and orders you out of your house at gun point and you're going to be jittery. America need to stop training its Police Force to murder and train them to resolve situations. Even if this was legit, the guys come out of his house and is surrounded by cops, how much of a threat is he.

I just hope all the scumbags involved here have a lifetime of sleepless nights knowing they played a role in murdering someone for no reason.

The book should be thrown at the two Gamers, and the Cop should be locked up and get sued into permanent bankruptcy by the victims family.

And something I've never understood in these situations, well I do its because too many Police are panicky, undertrained psycopaths. But regardless why in these situations do they always shoot to kill? Shoot them in the leg for crying out loud. But no they always go to cold blooded murder as the first option.
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people really out here calling swat teams over 1 or 2 dollar bets
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My thoughts:

1-Gamer One needs to be made an example of. Send him to prison. Swatting people can be dangerous and they need to show that this type of behaviour is unacceptable.

That said, nothing too major. I'm sure a lot of people are gonna cry for his head but considering that he never intended for anyone to be killed and that this incident was also caused by the cops incompetency, I'd say soft manslaughter charge.

2-Another case of cops being trigger happy, nothing more else I can say that's already been said.

3-I'm not defending the cop here, but considering the amount of cop shootings, you'd think when cops are aiming their guns at you and telling you to put your hands up, you put your fucking hands up and keep them there. Don't give them any reason to try and shoot you.

I remember that other incident where the guy got shot for pulling up his pants. Seriously people, just don't give them the reason and follow what they say and some of these incidents might not happen.

4-I don't blame Gamer Two much for this. Yes, he was still at fault but not as much as the cop or Gamer One.

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Is it really fair to blame the guy that gave out the fake address? In hindsight obviously he shouldn't have said any address at all, but compared to the guy that actually rang the police and conducted the swat, his was only a minor transgression. The whole thing is a terrible shame, but also sadly inevitable given how depressingly sad some corners of the internet are.

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okay this is the first time I've ever heard of "swatting" but what the serious fuck?

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Lesson from this story is some gamers needs to chill the fuck out over a video game or this shit will happen. It's not so hard to do. Leave and go blow off some steam. Next day you will wake up in a better mood and probably have a better day without having a chaotic situation. The guy who called the swat should be ashamed of himself and should be put in jail for this action. Jeez man. What's wrong with people these days?

As for the cop, they should have asked the damn question instead of just resorting to actions. Read of command and not read of chain reaction.
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Couldn't he just have ordered a pizza to the guy's house?

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I dont know where to start.

The fucking morons who think Swatting is cool.

The cunt who gave out a false address.

The cunt who actually called the cops.

The undertrained, trigger happy, murderous Police Officer who murdered and innocent and unarmed man.

I mean c'mon a god damn Swat team turns up at your house and orders you out of your house at gun point and you're going to be jittery. America need to stop training its Police Force to murder and train them to resolve situations. Even if this was legit, the guys come out of his house and is surrounded by cops, how much of a threat is he.

I just hope all the scumbags involved here have a lifetime of sleepless nights knowing they played a role in murdering someone for no reason.

The book should be thrown at the two Gamers, and the Cop should be locked up and get sued into permanent bankruptcy by the victims family.

And something I've never understood in these situations, well I do its because too many Police are panicky, undertrained psycopaths. But regardless why in these situations do they always shoot to kill? Shoot them in the leg for crying out loud. But no they always go to cold blooded murder as the first option.
Cops are not really trained to shoot for limbs..thats a skilled shot really you see in movies. Police are trained to put a target down and thats the chest.

Yeah they need to show more restraint though. calling them a psychopath is a bit far if they actually believed the phone call.

The swatters should get life in prison.
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Couldn't he just have ordered a pizza to the guy's house?
Remember the days when that was the funniest thing you could do as a kid.

Thesedays kids (cunts) send Swat teams around to peoples houses and get them murdered.

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Cops are not really trained to shoot for limbs..thats a skilled shot really you see in movies. Police are trained to put a target down and thats the chest.

Yeah they need to show more restraint though. calling them a psychopath is a bit far if they actually believed the phone call.

The swatters should get life in prison.

Anyone could shoot someone in the leg, or even the stomach. It just speaks volumes about how undertrained they are. If you're not trained highly enough then you shouldn't be allowed to walk around with a firearm.

You've just to look at the regularity with which America cops murder innocent unarmed people, hell there's videos out there of Police emptying clips into people that are on the ground and restrained and see that many of them are indeed psychopaths. I mean they are trained and given numerous non lethal options, yet time after time they chose murder, knowing full well that they wont be punished for it. They're psycopaths who know they can murder people and face no real punishment.

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