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post #11 of 49 (permalink) Old 12-27-2016, 12:10 PM
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It's still worth it for high flyers with specific goals but for 90% of uni students, they are just putting off the jobs they eventually do anyways (and would of been better off going straight into) to do a pointless humanities degree.

My city is full of graduates working minimum wage jobs in retail, care, hospitality and call centres.
This is the key here but with certain countries more so than others. Canada, Australia and UK seem to have a much harder time creating jobs for graduates than America where I consistently still hear about college graduates getting very decent high paying jobs.

Everyone that my wife worked with that went to school found a job right after which is why my wife is in Business School right now herself. We're extremely confident that she's going to find work near one of the mega-cities right after and she's already made senior management at her company just on the basis of high school (that said, my wife is one of the high flyers you're talking about too so I suppose that does make a difference as well).

In any case, I think it's a government regulation issue (over-taxation, higher barriers to entry for entrepreneurs, high minimum wage rates etc) that has created a climate of poor job prospects for college grads in certain cities and even countries in the western world rather than lack of decent college education itself. Of course, the fact that people are getting ridiculous degrees in shit like "feminist dance therapy" and the like has a lot to do with their lack of job prospects as well. Schools are definitely ripping students off by implying good job prospects with bullshit degrees.
I'd assume that a lot of the UK's issue is how London centric our industry is with London inhabitants making up almost a 7th of the population.

After London our next biggest city is Manchester which is a quarter the size of London and tiny in comparison to big US cities.

Obviously stupid degrees don't help, it's ridiculous that they exist and that people pay for them.
But 20 years ago English or History degrees were worthwhile and respected whilst now there no more valuable than David Beckham studies at half the unis.
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In high school and college, all the teachers and guidance counselors told me that college was so important for your future.

Today?

I'm a college graduate currently working full-time. Nothing I learned in college relates, even slightly, to my job duties (or to the job duties of my co-workers, including my supervisors).

Likewise, during the job hunt that lead to this job, I did around 5-6 interviews at various places. Not one person ever inquired about what I learned in college, nor did I ever feel that the material I learned was relevant to anything.

It seems to me that a college degree is just something that fulfills the requirement on a job ad; employers just want to see that you have one. I truly believe that college shouldn't be so necessary in a job search.
Depends on what you study and what is your work, wouldnt it mean that are careers that are useless?, or that there is not enough jobs to do for your area of studies



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I'd assume that a lot of the UK's issue is how London centric our industry is with London inhabitants making up almost a 7th of the population.

After London our next biggest city is Manchester which is a quarter the size of London and tiny in comparison to big US cities.

Obviously stupid degrees don't help, it's ridiculous that they exist and that people pay for them.
But 20 years ago English or History degrees were worthwhile and respected whilst now there no more valuable than David Beckham studies at half the unis.
This is why I brought up government regulations as part of the problem. Small towns get built on the strength of local entrepreneurship and eternally surviving family businesses that almost never grow beyond a certain size. I don't think that a lot of hybrid social welfare/capitalist states should foster anti-small business climates in their countries and encourage towns to grow on the strength of pro-small business policies - which would decrease the pressure on big cities with regards to providing employment opportunities.

Before moving to small town America, I thought it was all mostly a wasteland as is implied within movies ... but that's far from the case. Even a small town as this one (population of 70k) has a relatively thriving middle class on the strength of several major industries (tourism towards Orlando, Tampa and Miami and NASA around Daytona and Cape Canaveral), but at the same time, the town itself has sustained a lot of opportunities for locals because of relatively well to-do small businesses that compete well with mega-chains through business-friendly policies. You can see similar situations throughout American States where the small businesses are creating jobs for their communities ... One of the primary complaints about Obamacare was that it made it near impossible for small business owners to sustain themselves and saw that vote shift from democrat to republican with the hope that it would be repealed. I believe that nationalized healthcare in other countries has similar burdens on small businesses and prevent people from creating businesses in their communities.

The one-size fits all capitalism of UK imo hurts small towns and that in turn has a negative impact on bigger cities which simply don't have the jobs in comparison to the larger American ones.

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It's pretty bad to generalize education. At least I consider it so because of the title of the thread. Would you go to a doctor who thinks 'oh, education is pointless'? I trust you wouldn't. Some aspects of education can be pointless. For instance, I, as an engineering student, had to write tons of essays. That's strange. Anyways, with a diploma, I had no problems with job searching. Well, I asked for help a firm which helps to write a decent CV https://edureviewer.com/resume/resum...rs-com-review/ (it's a review). But it's not a big deal.
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Re: Anyone else feel their college education was pointless?

no because I didn't major in something that isn't worth anything to anyone

social science degrees are largely an indoctrination scam. turn you into a psuedo-marxist with no marketable skills. that way you won't have a good job, you'll be stuck with insurmountable debt, and will vote for a bigger government.
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Higher Education was fantastic for me. Apart from being a platform that introduced me to complex doctrines and problems, it gave me the capability to adopt critical thinking skills and logic.
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Re: Anyone else feel their college education was pointless?

What I studied had nothing to do with the career path I was interested in. It was just something I wanted to do.

So in that way, yes. But in others definitely not.


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Re: Anyone else feel their college education was pointless?

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It's pretty bad to generalize education. At least I consider it so because of the title of the thread. Would you go to a doctor who thinks 'oh, education is pointless'? I trust you wouldn't. Some aspects of education can be pointless. For instance, I, as an engineering student, had to write tons of essays. That's strange. Anyways, with a diploma, I had no problems with job searching. Well, I asked for help a firm which helps to write a decent CV https://edureviewer.com/resume/resum...rs-com-review/ (it's a review). But it's not a big deal.
I got an engineering degree as well. If you want any kind of higher up job in a engineering field you need to have a degree. I know I would not be where I am without getting my degree.

I can see where some degrees are a waste of time and money though.

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In high school and college, all the teachers and guidance counselors told me that college was so important for your future.

Today?

I'm a college graduate currently working full-time. Nothing I learned in college relates, even slightly, to my job duties (or to the job duties of my co-workers, including my supervisors).

Likewise, during the job hunt that lead to this job, I did around 5-6 interviews at various places. Not one person ever inquired about what I learned in college, nor did I ever feel that the material I learned was relevant to anything.

It seems to me that a college degree is just something that fulfills the requirement on a job ad; employers just want to see that you have one. I truly believe that college shouldn't be so necessary in a job search.
My degree does nothing for me. In reality, the people I see making loads of money are developers. I have 2 good friends who are making bank and they've always told me "I just chose computer science because I didn't know what to do". I should have just thrown darts at a board and studied whatever it landed on. 95% of what you learn in college will not be a factor at your job.

I will say that the idea of being in a routine, having to prove you're responsible, pursuing something that takes more than a few weeks...that's what should be focused on. I can't speak from a hiring standpoint, as it all seems random and dumb and employers are fucking awful in the US, but college serves the purpose of straightening up some people.

But, yeah. education wise college is no longer educating people; aside from some really good colleges and breakthrough professors.

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I'd assume that a lot of the UK's issue is how London centric our industry is with London inhabitants making up almost a 7th of the population.

After London our next biggest city is Manchester which is a quarter the size of London and tiny in comparison to big US cities.

Obviously stupid degrees don't help, it's ridiculous that they exist and that people pay for them.
But 20 years ago English or History degrees were worthwhile and respected whilst now there no more valuable than David Beckham studies at half the unis.
In the UK it seems to be more about the university you came from as opposed to the degree itself (with the likes of Medicine and Engineering being an obvious exception). A degree in Media Studies or Film Studies at Oxbridge (if they even have them), and maybe even some of the Russell Group Universities is probably of more value than Law and Economics at some low ranking ex-poly like University of West Scotland or London Met in the eyes of employers, especially those multinational City of London types.

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After London our next biggest city is Manchester which is a quarter the size of London and tiny in comparison to big US cities.
EDIT: Slightly off topic, but I thought Birmingham and Glasgow were bigger than Manchester? I thought the top 3 cities in the UK were London, Birmingham and Glasgow in that order?

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