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Cornette > Meltzer

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Jim is good people and doesn't hold back. The business could use more people like him.
He can get real heat by just giving his opinion. The current crop of play-fighters can learn a thing or 5 from him.
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He can get real heat by just giving his opinion. The current crop of play-fighters can learn a thing or 5 from him.
Good thing that his opinion is irrelevant since he was proved wrong by facts 5 years ago.

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I mean his newsletter and ratings system are really useless to the wrestling business in the grand scheme of things. But the fact he's made a decades long career off giving his opinion and giving 2nd hand information to nosey fans is amazing.
I think his schtick became more about opinions in the last decade and a half. His pieces from 80's and 90's are still the best source information about the history of the business around the world. He was the man sharing the info back then. The work he was putting covering every single noteworthy place in the business is praise worthy. Things have changed drastically though.
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you don't seem to know a lot about what meltzer does or how he functions. if you think he just comes out there and just shit out his opinion that's sad



and in fact his newsletter and his ratings are not even the biggest part of his business or what he does. the work of documentation necessary to produce the content is enormous, the house shows, the numbers I mean o won't explain it to you since google exist.



but if you really think he makes his money by rating matches and throwing away random information then you are naive
And yet what actual merit is that to the wrestling business? Is Meltzer keeping records actually making the wrestling business money or moving it forward? What you're saying doesn't really show his importance to the business. He can be a hard worker and knowledgeable and still be of no real use to the actual business of wrestling.
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jim cornette thinks that interactive entertainment and the people that advocate it are inheritly inferior, he is off the list

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I think his schtick became more about opinions in the last decade and a half. His pieces from 80's and 90's are still the best source information about the history of the business around the world. He was the man sharing the info back then. The work he was putting back then covering every single noteworthy place in the business back then is praise worthy. Things have changed drastically though.
I get that, it still doesn't change my opinion on his place in the business. It's non-essential if he didn't exist I don't see the business being in some totally different place.
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We really need a come to Jesus moment on Dave Meltzer because the guy DOES NOT report his opinion as facts - people on the internet do. He's a blogger and a journalist who does a lot of commentary and opinion pieces. If people take his thoughts and make threads about them where THEY claim to be facts, that's not his fault

Especially since on the rare occasions where he does say he has actual real sources, Meltzer is usually correct. He's spoiled MULTIPLE events this year that nobody saw coming. Yet people still go after his editorials as if he's calling those facts - he doesn't

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And yet what actual merit is that to the wrestling business? Is Meltzer keeping records actually making the wrestling business money or moving it forward? What you're saying doesn't really show his importance to the business. He can be a hard worker and knowledgeable and still be of no real use to the actual business of wrestling.
What are you talking about? What kind of economics is this lol. He makes enough money for his business to justify its utility to others. He doesn't have a responsibility to wrestling as a whole. He's a fan who enough people enjoy listening to. There's a market for what he's doing, that's called business
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We really need a come to Jesus moment on Dave Meltzer because the guy DOES NOT report his opinion as facts - people on the internet do. He's a blogger and a journalist who does a lot of commentary and opinion pieces. If people take his thoughts and make threads about them where THEY claim to be facts, that's not his fault

Especially since on the rare occasions where he does say he has actual real sources, Meltzer is usually correct. He's spoiled MULTIPLE events this year that nobody saw coming. Yet people still go after his editorials as if he's calling those facts - he doesn't



What are you talking about? What kind of economics is this lol. He makes enough money for his business to justify its utility to others. He doesn't have a responsibility to wrestling as a whole. He's a fan who enough people enjoy listening to. There's a market for what he's doing, that's called business


only problem i have with meltzer is that his criteria for a 5 star match has greatly decreased over the years. the inflation of the rating system makes a 5 star match matter less than it once did.

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Especially since on the rare occasions where he does say he has actual real sources, Meltzer is usually correct.
Not really. It looks like that, because he tells a lot of things, which are common knowledge anyway. Therefore, his wrong stuff (Harper is done) seems to be a minority.

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What are you talking about? What kind of economics is this lol. He makes enough money for his business to justify its utility to others. He doesn't have a responsibility to wrestling as a whole. He's a fan who enough people enjoy listening to. There's a market for what he's doing, that's called business
What I'm talking about is very simple. The fact that he's made so much money off of wrestling, while not actually being in the business is amazing. The fact he has no 1st hand experience in the wrestling business, yet has made a name for himself is amazing to me. He's so unessential to the business, yet so unavoidable it's damn near baffling.
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