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It's a good match, but I don't get why they are announcing it this soon. They should have waited to build it at the TV show. Isn't Jericho still supposed to defend the title in the 3rd TNT episode?
Card is subject to change. It's been a wrestling staple since it's inception.

Jericho could lose before then and they change this match as a result. They're announcing it because of ticket sales. It's their next ppv. It's not like WWE selling Mania tickets in January or whatever.



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They'll have to watch out, lest Cody just become this generation's equivalent of Jeff Jarrett.
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I still don't get the complains of Cody. Now, I don't like the manner in which he went over Spears, because Spears was made to look like a chump in that match.

But AEW does not exist without Cody. He's not the only reason it exists, but he's one of the main reasons it does. He's one of their most over guys right now. And he's one their few guys that's at a main event level. I mean look at their roster, their main eventers are basically:

1. Jericho
2. Cody
3. Omega
4. Mox
5. Hangman
6. PAC

And that's it. Omega and Mox are busy, Hangman and PAC will be too eventually. So you have another big PPV to sell, who the hell else are you going to put into that spot?

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There's no indication that he would choose an MMA format over a football one. It would make it harder to understand in the long run. Which would spawn more threads like this and even worse for casual fans who don't take part in the IWC to get clued in. Realistically, the records should start over after AEW's equivalent to Mania/Wrestle Kingdom. It would also make those events more meaningful as your guys have start over so they better make it count.
In the media scrum after All Out, Khan said that they are looking into ideas about reseting records, but at the same time they will keep overall records for the entire of their AEW tenure.

It's fine because it's like MMA, people can lose a lot in the beginning, but then go on big runs. You don't have to promote it as just oh "He's 24-20", you can say "He's on a 12 singles match win streak" or "He's 9-1 in his last 10".
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There's no indication that he would choose an MMA format over a football one. It would make it harder to understand in the long run. Which would spawn more threads like this and even worse for casual fans who don't take part in the IWC to get clued in. Realistically, the records should start over after AEW's equivalent to Mania/Wrestle Kingdom. It would also make those events more meaningful as your guys have start over so they better make it count.
Realistically the records should be based on how good someone has been recently. If you tie records to the entire calendar year that severely limits the element of spontaneity and is just a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

It'll be like NJPW, which is more the MMA model. For example, ZSJ wasn't on shit for awhile, then he suddenly went undefeated in the NJ Cup out of nowhere and was a serious title contender. His hot streak and current dominance determined his contender status, not his overall record for the whole year. That makes sense, that's more nimble, there's more spontaneity with that.

The NFL model doesn't work because it's a seasonal model based on a set limit of match ups and a set limit of competitive teams. NFL doesn't have to worry about not being able to field an entire team, or about a new team suddenly coming on board in the middle of the season.

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In the media scrum after All Out, Khan said that they are looking into ideas about reseting records, but at the same time they will keep overall records for the entire of their AEW tenure.

It's fine because it's like MMA, people can lose a lot in the beginning, but then go on big runs. You don't have to promote it as just oh "He's 24-20", you can say "He's on a 12 singles match win streak" or "He's 9-1 in his last 10".
Exactly, this is the only way of keeping records that will work


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Well, he is the top babyface right now, so it makes sense. I just wish they had created the match using the upcoming tv shows to build and fuel the feud, not just announcing it out of nowhere.

They have a lot of time still to sell the PPV, they don't need instant sell-outs to every single show (and it won't happen, anyway).
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Re: Cody Rhodes to Challenge Chris Jericho for AEW Title at 'Full Gear'

He's going to put Jericho over, likely with an angle involved, like Jericho debuts a heater which stacks the odds for the person who inevitably topples him.

This is the right booking move.
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Perfect way to build Jericho´s stable with MJF as the cocky understudy, Spears as the 3rd wheel, then you might bring in a female or a tag-team.
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Well, he is the top babyface right now, so it makes sense. I just wish they had created the match using the upcoming tv shows to build and fuel the feud, not just announcing it out of nowhere.
Why?

Guys, this is what's going to make AEW different.

So now is about the time where you decide if you want a different wrestling product or if you want WWE lite.

WWE is the company that makes title matches on the basis of who has personal beef with the champion, rather than on the basis of who is the most credible challenger for the champion. WWE will just have Samoa Joe, who is a 50/50 jobber, beat down Kofi after a match and then boom, all of the sudden he's a title contender. No logic and no suspense because Joe has no credibility. That's how WWE "creates a match" through weeks of Will They/Won't They interactions and contrived personal beef

AEW will be the company where records matter. Cody has the best record right now. He's the most credible opponent, so they booked the match. That's how AEW "creates a match". Now Jericho and Cody have a REASON to start interacting and to let their personal feelings bubble to the surface over the course of the next few weeks of building. It's not just going to be some guy bumping into some other guy in the hallway and now they have a PPV match just because they had a personal interaction. The momentum and credibility of the competitors is what determines the matches and the personal animosity comes into focus AFTER the guys have a reason to fight.

To me, this is a breath of fresh air. We know what the title match is, we have a LOGICAL reason for it to be happening, it has continuity with the booking thus far and it gives the wrestlers an actual reason to develop a rivalry. It's closer to sport than soap opera. AEW always said that was the goal and y'all been acting like you wanted that.

Now we find out if you really do. Or if you're too used to the Vince McMahon formula

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