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It's not when you think about it. WWE pulled Kurt Angle and Undertaker from Starrcast this year leading into Double or Nothing. This is of the norm and I wouldn't be surprised if those Legend contracts they have on their current legends are strengthened like the standard three year deals for current talent became five year deals for everyone.

If I'm AEW, they have to realize that WWE and Vince/HHH are going to play dirty and do everything in their power to undermine and stop AEW from moving forward before the TV TNT show. History shows it with WWE. They need to be aptly prepared and understand that war is inevitable. They have to plan accordingly or else they could very well let WWE take away all the momentum they have built for the company this year.
Starrcast events will take a massive hit for sure. I don't blame WWE Legends on those contracts taking the best deal for themselves.

You will see WWE offer a lot more of those long term contracts with big money to underneath talent just to keep them away from AEW. The funny thing is I don't think AEW would touch the likes of Mojo Rawley, Jinder or Maria/Mike in all honesty and the talent know it too so get their agents to get them the best deal they can cause they know WWE will pay it.

They are trying to get their NXT talent onto long term contracts even ones who won't amount to crap in WWE just to keep them away from AEW.

They will have a PPV even if it's a B-Level one on the same day as AEW on a Saturday, I have no doubt they will move them to Saturday to compete.

I expect a few names to slip through the WWE net in the next 5 years but I don't think it be mass exodus like some expect.

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The main people who will go are the ones that put story above money - very simple

The same sort that leaves EA to go work at an indie studio

Money is nice, but it is not everything

But those types are few and far between

I would guess at WWE currently it is Bryan, Revival, Sasha and Rusev (maybe) - that is about it

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Starrcast events will take a massive hit for sure. I don't blame WWE Legends on those contracts taking the best deal for themselves.

You will see WWE offer a lot more of those long term contracts with big money to underneath talent just to keep them away from AEW. The funny thing is I don't think AEW would touch the likes of Mojo Rawley, Jinder or Maria/Mike in all honesty and the talent know it too so get their agents to get them the best deal they can cause they know WWE will pay it.

They are trying to get their NXT talent onto long term contracts even ones who won't amount to crap in WWE just to keep them away from AEW.

They will have a PPV even if it's a B-Level one on the same day as AEW on a Saturday, I have no doubt they will move them to Saturday to compete.

I expect a few names to slip through the WWE net in the next 5 years but I don't think it be mass exodus like some expect.
Yeah, for some inexplicable reason, as crappy as their product is and has been, WWE is still in a much better position to retain talent than they were when WCW went head-to-head against them. Which is unfortunate now, but we’ve already seen how AEW has been able to do more with less. It just means that they’ve got a little more work cut out for themselves to create new stars instead of poaching them.
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It's not when you think about it. WWE pulled Kurt Angle and Undertaker from Starrcast this year leading into Double or Nothing. This is of the norm and I wouldn't be surprised if those Legend contracts they have on their current legends are strengthened like the standard three year deals for current talent became five year deals for everyone.

If I'm AEW, they have to realize that WWE and Vince/HHH are going to play dirty and do everything in their power to undermine and stop AEW from moving forward before the TV TNT show. History shows it with WWE. They need to be aptly prepared and understand that war is inevitable. They have to plan accordingly or else they could very well let WWE take away all the momentum they have built for the company this year.
Oh that's not what I meant, I understand that part. I meant having Booker T appear at All Out is really random. I don't see how or where he fits in. Surely he wasn't unveiling the women's title. Also, doesn't Booker make appearances on the pre-show panel from time to time? I don't think Booker is that old or out of touch that he wouldn't have seen a problem with a possible AEW booking.
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Mmmm.... very true.

What was the potential spot?

The only thing I can think of is crowning the champion - ie> handing over the title

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Yeah, for some inexplicable reason, as crappy as their product is and has been, WWE is still in a much better position to retain talent than they were when WCW went head-to-head against them. Which is unfortunate now, but we’ve already seen how AEW has been able to do more with less. It just means that they’ve got a little more work cut out for themselves to create new stars instead of poaching them.
AEW will always be playing second fiddle with WWE when it comes to talent, sure AEW might pull out a big move and get in a top indy talent or a star from NJPW or might poach someone like a Tessa Blanchard from under the noses from WWE. But a lot of indy talent will still go to WWE even if they more then likely end up spending more time in catering then anything else. Just cause it's WWE. I could name a dozen names in NXT right now not been used who could have done wonders on AEW. On the top of my head, Chelsea Green, Rachel Ellering, Deonna Purrazzo and Karen Q could have done wonders been on AEW's women's roster. Might not be big names but would be given a better chance of a successful career in AEW then they will be in WWE or NXT.

I even think at least a few of the younger talent they got now on AEW are using it to get better deals for themselves once WWE come knocking in the future. Might not be a popular thing to say on here, but I do believe it's the case.

It might take 10 to 20 years if AEW is still around to probably be on the even level with newer generation of talent who might see AEW as the place to go.

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It's amazing how much WWE can make certain wrestlers seem so lifeless and dull. It's like they do it on purpose.
Yeah I think it's because with WWE you know they aren't really going to do anything interesting. So many years of limited and repetitive story-telling that new characters just aren't that appealing because we know they're not going to do anything of note.

With a company like AEW, there's an edge to things as we know they really go for it in matches and we might be about to see something special or outrageous. When was the last time WWE made you feel like that? I can't even remember.
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Was he at All Out or just at the AO Starrcast?

If he was at All Out, I'd suspect it would be something to do with announcing the Tag Tournament or something.

Is there any Booker T wrestling school/promotion talent on the AEW roster or radar? Maybe he was going to be used to debut them.
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Was he at All Out or just at the AO Starrcast?

If he was at All Out, I'd suspect it would be something to do with announcing the Tag Tournament or something.

Is there any Booker T wrestling school/promotion talent on the AEW roster or radar? Maybe he was going to be used to debut them.
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The wwe doesnt understand that what makes aew's talent standout is more than just the talent themselves, its multiple factor, its three freedom, the trust, the whole environment of the company. Listen to Moxley talk, it's a lot less corporate. There is a spirit of collaboration there, the total writes their stories together. The company call the shot but the guys have the freedom to do the rest. Moxley asked for one camera after the shoe to cut a promo and they gave him his camera he did his promo and he was an happy man. The aew product raw , rough and not too polished.
Wwe might take all the joshi they want they will never feel the same as the aew joshi, because they will try to turn them wwe-like. It's a mentality that even triple h has. In aew the yuka that you see at aew is the one and only yuka and that's the same for all of them.
I mean look at how shawn spears comes off, during his segments and his part in the last road to fight for the fallen I forgot the motherfucker was tye dillinger. He washed up everything about tye dillinger just like Moxley did.
That's what makes them standout. Sorry but what is the difference between heel Io shirai and Becky lynch? It's the same goddamn character except becky is face now.
Again it's only going to work against wwe when their own talent will become much bigger than they were in their company.

As for their counters so far? Sorry but lol
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