and that was the point that they could sell more , which was right when they sold out all in but it doesnt count because the event in itself/the concept sold the event. Same for double or nothing and all out was sold out for the same reason, the success of DON, they hype, the good news about it , the critical acclaim and the quality of the show. Which was ALSO my point. So far none of them are a draw except Y2j and omega in the us. Am I saying Moxley isnt ? Fuck no ( which is why this conversation was useless to begin with) I am saying when someone is just out of the awe we cant use his wwe feats to establish him as a draw/guy that sell because in wwe the brand itself is the draw. Which was my point when people started saying Moxley was a huge draw, I said no we dont know. Because we cant use his wwe feats. Which were basically the wwe brand drawing the events.
How was that difficult to understand? I dont know. At this point even cody is proved a draw. No matter how small he draws, as for someone like moey we cant know YET because we cant take the wwe drawing and attributing it to a star.( except guys like the rock stone cold or cena).
And AEW is following the wwe path, its the idea, the concept of aew and the way they present themselves that draws. ( plus the period we are in)
If the discussion was about who would be a better champion, from a business perspective, then the correct answer would be Jericho followed by Moxley. These are the two that would bring a much bigger following with them than anyone else on the roster, by a wide margin. The people in charge seem to be well aware of this. If they thought making Omega the champion right off the bat would have been a profitable idea, they would have put him over Jericho, since he's younger.
the initial plan according to Dave was to make omega their first ever aew champion after him beating pac. But the pac thing made it go woosp.
And I fundamentally disagree putting the title on every wwe guy that were in the wwe main event first because"well they are stars" is tna level of bullshit. And I stand by this even if they do it. From a business perspective building future stars and not relying on ex wwe guys' popularity is the way to go. Which they are perfectly doing by putting y2j against a young lion in Page. Then what if another big wwe guy like balor comes they also put the title on him next because "lol he was already popular in wwe"? M'yeah thank you
Long term booking creating stars is the way, dont put the title on people just because they were wwe guys one after the other, in a short term business perspective that the good way. Long term? I dont think so
If y2j is the first champion putting the title on Moxley next is basically putting the title on every big wwe guys that you have, so no I wouldn't support that and it would be very tna-like for me.
But if y2j isnt the first champion, then putting the title on Moxley next is a no brainer then. Thinking long term is the way they should go for me.
Omega will be a champion, for sure, but from a business standpoint, it makes much more sense to first put the title on the guys with the much bigger fanbases. Omega will be built up in the meantime.
yeah in other words put the title on every ex wwe main eventer you have. Isnt that the same shit people crap on tna for doing?
From a business perspective build you own star quickly. Omega hangman and mjf are their non-wwe guys that have main event written all over them with omega already being a main event name. Building them as fast as possible and putting the title on them is the way. Not throwing your title on every wwe guy because "they have a big fanbase" you write to create new stars not to make the fanbase of an ex wwe guy happy because their favourite who was mistreated is now champ
I still think giving your top title to two wwe guys back to back is a terrible idea.