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Bray Wyatt / Wyatt Family Discussion Thread

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Before I begin I just want to clarify that I'm doing this thread with the hope that I can help open some eyes onto the mystery of a very complicated character, and hopefully provide an easier understanding, and more enjoyment.

To begin, let me highlight the misconceptions on his character.

On the surface, Bray Wyatt and his Wyatt family seem to be not much more than Duck Dynasty castoffs, Backwoods hicks, or Wyatt as a Max Cady (Cape Fear) or Waylon Mercy ripoff...

However, Underneath the surface, just like what Bray would tell you, "There's something else inside..." of him.

I believe his character is that of a cult leader possessed by a demon.The promos I attached below explain it perfectly. In the second one he even says something like,

"I guess there's no sense in waiting any longer....Samael, he's all yours (talking about his vessel)..Hey you wanna see something really scary.."



Now, Samael, when I first heard that mention I didn't really think much of it, until that is, I researched it a bit! Here's what I found:



After reading that I'm certain that my gatherings are correct and the Bray Wyatt character is actually possessed by The Prince of All Demons, The Archangel Samael.

I think his catchphases "Follow the buzzards" and "Eater of Worlds" make sense as well, since Samael, in Christian and Jewish lore, was bent on the destruction of all humans, and buzzards usually flock to death, and I believe Bray Wyatt is a new walking corpse, only his is possessed by a Demon.



In conclusion, I believe, if handled right this could be a more realistic take on the new Undertaker type character WWE sorely needs. Exorcisms and possession are finally becoming more present in our society with the Vatican performing exorcisms lately, and the media eating it all up. I think a walking dead man (Taker) is a pretty tough sell but the gimmick still made him a legend, and I think Wyatt's will do the same for him, and is actually much more believable than it would seem, in our new more realistic era.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Here`s some more coal to throw on the fire ;)

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#409 ·
Re: Bray Wyatt: The eater of worlds is coming

He is actually a really convincing actor, he clearly has his character down.

It will be interesting to see how the WWE will use the Wyatt family and the Shield at the same time. I think there is some potential for some really interesting storylines.
 
#411 ·
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Just like everyone else there are a TON of high hopes for the future of these talents coming up to main show.

However it HAS to be stressed, we've had excitement like this before....Nexus...Summer of Punk....Lesner's return ect and well ALL know what happened to these exciting moments don't we?With the exception of the SHIELD, we've watched the above mention moments, groups & wrestler's fall by the wayside thanks to WWE "UN"-creative.


That not with standing with all the backstage praise this group is getting, there's a good chance the Wyatt family won't go the way of Nexus. But I want to also STRESS unlike the Shield I believe this group NEEDS to be SLOWLY built.


The Shield has that "mercenary" feel to the group, they NEEDED to make a BIG IMPACT since they were "paid" to back at the Survivor Series. Since then this group looking to bring "justice" to the WWE has never let it's foot off the peddle and it works.

BUT

When I look at a guy like Wyatt, I see a guy always three steps ahead of whoever he's against, the slow,methodical and intense pacing of his charterer suggests the man's playing a game. A game in which he controls the speed of how fast he want to play it. So unlike the Shield, Wyatt should make "less" of an imminent impact, instead Wyatt should debut on RAW with a message to the WWE Universe how there world will chnage in the coming weeks and months ect but always ending with " Time is on My Side" line he's been doing for a while. Also the promo should be done with Wyatt sitting in the middle of the ring in his rocking chair to continue to stress the slowness of the charterer, he's in no rush.

Then you take him off RAW completely, I would have him DOMINATE WWE Main Event instead. Start with Wyatt going through low-mid card wrestler in ring. In fact it's on Main Event that the E was looking to give M 18-34 a strong showing when they debuted on ION. To me Wyatt is a throwback to that demographic so make Main Event revolve around Wyatt not only with matches but segments giving more of a background about his family.

Also have Wyatt on SD but backstage getting to "know" the talent, tease up coming match up's and things of that nature and once in awhile have Wyatt sit in the crowd on RAW, rocking chair and all as he watches. In fact I give him a glass a lemonade as well to show Wyatt is on HIS time not the WWE's.

Now have this continue for a few weeks probably up till mid July and then begin his true STORY which I have an idea for and will debut on BTB in a few days.

So with that shameless plug out of the way, again I wish Wyatt luck on his debut not with the debut itself but with WWE "UN"-creative.
 
#412 ·
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I'm a fan of Wyatt, and there's potential for an amazing storyline here, keyword: potential. With the incompetence of this creative team, I'm not getting my hopes up.

I mean, hell, up until the past several weeks, The Shield were just floating around aimlessly with seemingly no direction.
 
#414 ·
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The clip was shown on Smackdown last night my god these three strange looking guys will not make a big impact they will fail. And is it me or do they look really disgusting like they havent bathed in ages
WOOSH!

That is the sound of their gimmick going completely over your head.
 
#421 ·
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Saw the promo last night on Smackdown (I was watching for The Shield) and then this promo comes on. One thing that WWE is VERY VERY good at it is their vignettes. Man that got me pumped up. Maybe there are 2 things I can look forward to.
 
#432 ·
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I hope they dont debut him with the stupid mask he has on. And I also hope he debuts ALONE and not with the family.
 
#433 ·
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all these new superstars that have potential but need to rely on creative for a good direction and good work for their character are pretty much hopeless because creative is hopeless. fandango is a good example. he could've been booked right and given the right material and been taken completely seriously as a ballroom dancer. lol thats how good johnny curtis is that he can pull that off. the problem is that he needed to be given more things to do from creative and that isn't going to happen. especially after his little dance got famous. that was creative's que for break time..

the shield hasn't benefited at all from creative other than the fact that they got strong booking. and they can't just give every person who comes their way good booking. so with the shield filling up that spot, the new wrestlers are gonna have to rely on creative to supply the food for their gimmicks and it'll go well for about a month. unless they really start to bring it and approach vince with their own material and make their own way, creative will have their shitty way with the characters. but that's just how I see it. I have no reason not to believe this though.
 
#447 ·
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For those complaining that Wyatt is a rehash of Mercy, wasn't Flair an almost complete copy of Buddy Rogers?
Did Buddy Rogers have the "Woooooo" thing?

Did he have the "Limousine-riding, Jet-flying, kiss-stealing, wheeling-and-dealing sonofagun" thing?


Did he have the strut?




Okay, maybe I see your point in that perhaps....PERHAPS Big Country Nelson...err, I mean Wyatt...can do a better version of that gimmick(Waylon Mercy gimmick). But frankly, from the video I saw, while it looks interesting, they seem more like a modern-day Godwins(remember them?) except they act all goofy and wear those sheep masks.. All they need is the slop.
 
#437 ·
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I love where this thread has gone and goes back to the idea of what makes Brays character most special is the Family. They will get pushed before he does because that's what he needs to be seen as this powerful cult leader that wields these 2 behemoths with just his words.

Apart from them, his gimmick isn't nearly as powerful. I am a HUGE NXT, far beyond the RAW/SD product but I guess I look into things a bit more than most.
 
#442 ·
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IWC: Moan about there being the same old stale guys in the top slots

WWE: Debut loads of new guys that the IWC rave about

IWC: Moans about new guys.
Nobody ever raved about Michael McGillicutty, that's horseshit. Virtually all of the IWC loves The Shield and Bray Wyatt and have stayed that way. Anybody in here who's complaining about Wyatt is a SMALL IWC minority.
 
#440 ·
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Bray Wyatt is fucking excellent, he has a edge to him that no-one around has at the moment. Whether this will lend itself well to current WWE booking though remains to be seen. Let's just enjoy it for a change, instead of moaning about it.


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#441 ·
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I'm going to wait and see where this goes. Wonder who his (their) first major feud is going to be with.
 
#449 ·
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I wonder if there plan at all is for them to target The SHIELD I mean Luke Harper and Erick Rowan do make an interesting tag team and in NXT do have the tag titles. I also wonder if how he comes off if Bray Wyatt will brainwash another wrestler to be apart of there family.
 
#452 ·
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I'm just so hyped for this. One of the most interesting gimmicks in the last decade.

On a side note, I've noticed that some people around here take the the comparison with the Max Cady character from Cape Fear a little bit too far. Of course, there are some similarities between Cady and Wyatt (the Southern hillybilly background, the rambling manner of speech, the penchant for mysticism,... the Hawaii shirts), but there are also notable differences - Wyatt is not an ex-convict whose prime motivation is personal revenge; he's not a born-again christian; unlike the loner Cady, Wyatt recruits followers; and I highly doubt that WWE would go so far as to portray Wyatt as a rapist and/or a pedophile.

Wyatt's character draws on urban middle-class fears of the Southern 'White trash' and esoteric cults, which has a long tradition of cultural depictions (Deliverance and Cape Fear being just two examples) - however, I still think that we should appreciate his character in itself and not reduce him to a mere copy.
 
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#462 ·
Re: Bray Wyatt: The eater of worlds is coming

I'm just so hyped for this. One of the most interesting gimmicks in the last decade.

On a side note, I've noticed that some people around here take the the comparison with the Max Cady character from Cape Fear a little bit too far. Of course, there are some similarities between Cady and Wyatt (the Southern hillybilly background, the rambling manner of speech, the penchant for mysticism,... the Hawaii shirts), but there are also notable differences - Wyatt is not an ex-convict whose prime motivation is personal revenge; he's not a born-again christian; unlike the loner Cady, Wyatt recruits followers; and I highly doubt that WWE would go so far as to portray Wyatt as a rapist and/or a pedophile.

Wyatt's character draws on urban middle-class fears of the Southern 'White trash' and esoteric cults, which has a long tradition of cultural depictions (Deliverance and Cape Fear being just two examples) - however, I still think that we should appreciate his character in itself and not reduce him to a mere copy.
Folks comparing him to Max Cady are folks who watched him debut in NXT with Eli Cottonwood as his muscle.



The character has evolved since then.
 
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