It's a new year so we decided a new ratings thread would be suitable. Discuss all ratings related topics in here please. Let the shit storm begin...again.
Except what you don't understand is Punk/Lesnar is the selling point of this PPV. Bryan/Cena isn't even in the discussion.
:tilol, people actually thinking casuals care more about Cena vs. fucking Daniel Bryan over Punk/Lesnar. Get real. Punk/Lesnar is the main selling point of this show.
:tiIn the segment-by-segment, the opening segment with Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Randy Orton, Christian, C.M. Punk and Kane all out talking did a 2.73 opening quarter, so they started way low. Christian & The Usos vs. The Shield lost 28,000 viewers. Dolph Ziggler vs. Jinder Mahal gained 90,000 viewers. The Mark Henry video piece gained 64,000 viewers. Randy Orton vs. Kane with Daniel Bryan as ref gained 217,000 viewers to a 2.98 quarter. Sheamus vs. Fandango lost 115,000 viewers. Ryback vs. The Miz gained 116,000 viewers. The Mark Henry interview and backstage segment with Vince McMahon gained 0 viewers. C.M. Punk & Curtis Axel vs. Prime Time Players gained 21,000 viewers to a 3.00 rating, which is terrible growth for the 10 p.m. segment. Kaitlyn vs. Alicia Fox with A.J. out, plus Stephanie McMahon backstage lost 123,000 viewers. Antonio Cesaro vs. Cody Rhodes lost 98,000 viewers. And the John Cena vs. Albert Del Rio match gained 567,000 viewers to a 3.25 overrun.
Good breakdown, man.Comparing Lesnar vs Punk and Bryan vs Cena angles starting the RAW after MITB PPV.
July 15 -
10:00 PM - Lesnar Vs Punk gain - 498,000 viewers - 3.4 quarter
ME + Overrun - Bryan vs Cena gain - 669,000 Viewers - 3.41 quarter
July 22 -
10:00 PM - Lesnar vs Punk gain - 201,000 viewers - 3.07 quarter
ME + Overrun - Bryan vs Cena gain - 341,000 viewers - 3.20 quarter
July 29 - n/a
10:00 PM - ... (Kane Vs Bryan)
Me + Overrun - ... (Cena/Ryback tables)
August 05 -
10:00 PM - (small)??? gain - 3.1 quarter
ME + Overrun - Bryan vs Cena gain - 700,000 viewers - 3.4 quarter
August 12 -
10:00PM - Bryan Vs Cena - 560,000 viewers - 3.3 quarter
ME + Overrun - Lesnar vs Punk - 400,000 viewers - 3.5 quarter
Anyone looking at this objectively would agree, Bryan vs Cena is outshining Punk and Lesnar. By far the biggest feud of the PPV, heading in with the most interest.
What were you expecting? :lolRock316AE trashing Punk/Taker but defending Cena's story of REDEMPTION!
Sit down son.
Yeah Bryan did quite well, and didn't tank the ratings like I had feared he would after working 45 minutes straight. Also don't forget about Q5.Bryan/Cesaro continuation, Bryan/Ryback got a 3.0 and a 3.2 into the overrun. Good for a situation in which the same guy has been on for around 45 minutes. Fans didn't get bored of it. Thought for sure it'd do horribly. Great job by Bryan. LOL that the highest quarter hour of the night (outside of the overrun) was a 3.1.
Q5: 3.2 rating - Mark Henry calls out The Shield, The Uso's save Henry, John Cena and Daniel Bryan talk backstage, Dolph Ziggler vs. Darren Young
Can people please let the ratings decline go? It's a different era. I remember the AE and at that time, in the UK where I live, there was only 5 terresteral channels: BBC1, BBC2, ITV, channel 4, channel 5. There was no free view. It was that or you had Sky and not everyone could afford that. There was no high speed internet either, with broadband only coming into peoples homes from 2000. Even if you did have broadband what would you do with it? YouTube only came out in 2005 and downloading anything was slow. Without sounding patronizing, if you are under 15 you don't know how lucky you are. You have never experienced the generation where it took 30 seconds to load up a web page. Back in the AE you couldn't download a thousand roms for free off of the internet at a clock of a button. Yes the ratings are terrible in comparison but that is true with all TV shows. TV viewers have collapsed since broadband. There is so much competition. Even those that do watch Raw live are playing around with their Ipads. Getting a 3.0 today is still a great achievement baring mind the culture we live in.
Damn, WWE don't get many viewers in the UK these days. It would be interesting to see what the viewership figures in the UK were like during the attitude era.Wrestling in the UK
- In 2012, WWE Raw averaged 160,000 (9.2%) for live airings and 38,000 (0.3%) for its first repeat, a total of 198,000 viewers per week. Unsurprisingly, the highest rating was for Raw 1000, which had 357,000 (15.1%), peaking with 479,000 (20.2%) for the return of The Rock. This is an increase on the 2011 average of 174,000 viewers.
- In 2012, WWE SmackDown averaged 104,000 viewers for first run airings. This is down on the 2011 average of 116,000 viewers.
- In 2012, TNA Impact averaged 199,000 viewers for first run airings.
Note that all ratings include anyone who watched that airing within 7 days (so no, 160,000 did not sit up to 2am and watched Raw live, they merely recorded it overnight to watch later)
Those 2 sentences are all anyone needs to see regarding Punk not being a huge draw. How can anybody possibly be expected to be a huge draw, when they have nobody of any note to feud with on a regular basis?Talent roster was huge during the AE. Peak level. Punk is barely promoted NOW, when the talent pool is at an all-time low and someone is claiming that he would have been anything above a low card performer? Comedy. What Punk does now is to say "controversial on purpose" statements for the "AWWW" reaction in a minority of the fanbase. This was an ordinary thing back then all over the industry. Only place Punk could have been in is ECW around 2000.
As for that Taka/HHH match, it was a top of the hour match. Great TV match. Started 5.7, ended 6.0 but wasn't Top 3 of the night back then.
BTW, Big Show got the title because he was doing good business, not because he was just a random guy. He had one of the most promoted feuds of the year with Bossman before SVS 1999 when he got the belt.
The Clay/Punk match shouldn't be a problem, only important aspect of the Rumble PPV promotion is Rock's title chase. To make it the most important thing in his life and with this money line: "Fact: You ain't God. But God as my witness, in 13 days I WILL beat you for the WWE Title". He basically covered it. They just need to promote it as much as possible along with the Rumble concept.