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Official Raw Discussion Thread - 1/7/13 - RAW GETS ROCKED

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)

Finally...



The WWE Universe will smell what The Rock is cooking when “The Most Electrifying Man in All of Entertainment” returns to Raw on Jan. 7, live in Tampa, Fla.

The Great One will no doubt have a few eyebrow-raising surprises in store for the momentous first Raw of 2013. Revelry won’t be the only thing on The Rock’s mind that night, however, as he prepares to compete for the WWE Title at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view event on Jan. 27. But who will The Brahma Bull battle for the illustrious prize: CM Punk or Ryback?


WWE Championship Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match
CM Punk (c) vs. Ryback

The hulking juggernaut and The Straight Edge Superstar — not to mention the millions and millions of The Rock’s fans — won’t want to miss the iconic Superstar’s exciting return to Tampa for the first time in a decade. Experience the first Raw of 2013 by tuning in at 8/7 CT on USA Network.​
 
#3,742 · (Edited)
There goes Punk marks again, claiming that Punk owns everyone. No one got owned today. Yes, The Rock was predictable, and yes...so was Punk. That segment didn't even pick up until the back and forth started. Until then it was just Punk being PREDICTABLE. Whining and breaking kayfabe, then using cheap heat. You can't just go around saying The Rock is predictable when Punk is doing the same thing. I know a lot of you don't want to admit it, but it's true. Instead, you'll just say "Man, this guy Punk speaks the truth. He's great!!!!" all while hypocritcally supporting Punk doing the same thing that you criticize The Rock, Cena, etc. for doing. Being predictable.

The back and forth was great. The Rock did good with his jokes, got the crowd hyped, put Punk over tremendously, and brought some great intensity and finished it off with a Rock bottom. Punk's piece after Rock finished talking was great, although I did chuckle at Punk saying he was going to kick the Rock's ass. Just looking at both of them and comparing their physiques made it hilarious. But that's besides the point. Great intensity from Punk, and his last line was gold. Great Face/Heel dynamic from both men. If you aren't hyped for the Rumble, then you're either:

1. Your typical smark who is never happy with anything, EVER!
2. Someone that is entirely too wrapped up in your personal mark-wars to enjoy everything.
3. Someone who doesn't love your mother.

Seriously, saying one or the other owned someone is just retarded, and you all know it. Stop being a bunch of pathetic marks and enjoy the feud.

Either way, you suck. Great segment, crowd could've been better, both showed why their some of the best at what they do, hats off to both men.
 
#1,633 ·
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THIS SHOW!?

It's just pointless filler after pointless filler after pointless filler. WWE are not building to any feuds, not building any stories, not helping flesh-out the characters to give them any added depth. It is just a complete waste of time. What does John Cena beating Dolph Ziggler do? What does Randy Orton beating Three Man Band do? They are just killing air time to try to get through the show. It is pathetic & pointless.
 
#3,944 ·
:rock4 The Mark Wars are funny because, as the 'IWC' the consensus its the smarter wrestling fanbase but reading the VAST majority makes you wonder how flawed that theory is.

Rock and Punk after the segment is over "Damn we Killed it tonight, both are rebuttals meshed well and im sure we talked enough of them into some seats, Great Job"

apparantly wrestling's finest minds on the internet "ZOMG PUNK KILD ROCK 2NIHT, NAA ROCK KILLED WID DA JOKES AND PUNK DIDNT EVEN SAY NTTIN BAC!"

I presume this is the outbreak from Rock/Cena last year where it legitimately came off they weren't working in tandem when it came to their promo work but the general idea in a promo is you work of each other, last night's promo's between Rock and Punk is a masterclass in a heel and face working together to create something great.

When did this shit become equivalent to rap battles?
 
#8 ·
:lmao Yep, that's what I'll be watching too mostly. I'll try hard to catch Rock/Punk and whatever the Shield's doing, but that's about it. Any filler shit like Khali, Hornswoggle, or whatever else and WWE can fuck right off. I'll watch the Title game commercials over that crap.
 
#1,058 ·
So here is some logic for you :

-Cena kicks out of every move Ziggler has in his arsenal, including his finisher.
-Ziggler's stablemate comes out to interfere to level the playing field because Ziggler couldn't pin Cena alone.
-Cena kicks out of the stablemate's finisher.
-Cena does his finisher once to Ziggler and it's over.

So with that said, Cena > Dolph Ziggler, Big E. Langston combined.


Then how in the world would against those odds does Ziggler look like a serious threat / maintain heat on Cena?

Hmm..I wonder why we can't build new stars?
 
#3,745 ·
If what you got out of that promo was "zomg ___ owned ___" then you watch wrestling for the wrong reason and I really wouldn't mind if you logged yourself out and forgot the password.

Yeah I've been drinking. What of it?


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I want to rep you but it says I've given out too much rep. You should talk to your bosses about removing the daily limitation. Rep whores need to whore out rep.

Anyone else cringe at cena's wiener jokes? I liked the match despite the ending.


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Fucking terrible. The dude needs to be fucking fired.
 
#3,721 ·
Fuck all the idiots arguing about who fucking won that promo. You know who won, you tools? EVERY ONE OF US.

That one promo between punk and rock was better than all the Rock/Cena promos building up to last year's mania. That was some proper good mic work from both men. It was incredibly intense and pulled no punches.

Instead of focusing on who won, enjoy the entertainment we have coming our way over the course of the next three weeks and beyond. This is going to be the best feud the WWE has seen since Punk vs Cena leading up to money in the bank in 2011.

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#3,724 ·
Exactly. People here are treating Punk and Rock like the sports teams they support. It is possible to actually be neutral in a feud of this magnitude. In fact, being neutral should be greatly encouraged, to eliminate all the bullshit bias and hyperbole we'll no doubt contend with in the coming weeks.
 
#3,875 ·
In other news, fuck John Cena.

Those who known me for a while know that, although I'm not a fan, I accept him often than most people on here and tend to defend him at times....but last night with him was bullshit and when I say bullshit, I don't mean "Aw, SuperCena, blah blah..." No I mean that is bullshit that THAT is the only way to sell Cena at this current moment.

I missed the opening segment but caught it later. Are you fucking kidding me? The same man who held his own against Triple H leading up to Wrestlemania 22, the same man who had those killer promos back and forth with Edge in their rivalry in 2006, the same man who cut a great promo with Batista back in 2010, the guy who even bested Rock a night or two in 2011 has now been reduced to that? And don't give me that "Well, he's the top babyface." Hogan, for all his transgressions, had you pumped and anyone saying otherwise is lying. Period. Same for Macho Man, Same for Austin, Same for Rock, Same for HHH, Same for Flair. That promo was atrocious. Two other things wrong with that whole ordeal:

1) This needs to be said. John Cena's crowd psychology blows and blows hard. As much flack as I give Hogan for certain things, dude knew his spots to pop and build the crowd up and changed his tempo not just for his match but for the crowd to get into it. Cena rushes, gets beaten down, rushes again, beaten down, then rushes for the win. How can the crowd be even closely into a match like that when Cena does the same style of match? Not saying he is a bad wrestler but man his psychology leaves a LOT to be desired.

2) What was the point of AJ and Langston being ejected if Langston's interference and Ziggler's distraction STILL couldn't put Cena away? Not only does it sell Langston, a new guy on the scene, short but it completely bitches out Ziggler and you're telling me he's going to be a World champion in a few months. Give me a break. I wouldn't buy it and neither would the majority.

The worst thing WWE could do right now is for Cena to win the Rumble AND beat the Rock to become the WWE champion at Mania. Cena doesn't deserve it. He doesn't. Cena doesn't need a pointless Rumble win which will do nothing for him, short term or long term. He DAMN WELL is nowhere near needed in Rock/Punk's segment (especially after that golden performance from them last night) and would only hinder it.

People say WWE is fucked without Cena, which I say too and is true, but let's be real. The company is already fucked up with him STILL the top guy.
 
#3,894 ·
He didn't namedrop Bruno and Hogan for no reason. :kobe He mentioned how their reigns were easier and meant less than his because they had less of an intensive schedule than he did. Come on, pay attention to the content if you're going to criticize. Then again if you think The Rock did well then obviously paying attention to content is something you desperately avoid. :lol
 
#3,898 ·
he doesn't pay attention. he said so himself it's not what you say, but how you say it and crowd reaction. i guess that's how you rationalize when punk owns your guy on the mic. rock will always get the biggest reaction like cena always does on his promos. cena is the goat when it comes to saying contradictory bullshit that makes no sense with great conviction and everyone cheers and his fans on this very board applaud him. that shit is supposed to work on the casuals and kids, not hardcore wrestling fans, lol. content-wise punk always wins cuz he's the best there is on the stick. if you listen to what they are actually saying, punk always wins.
 
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