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post #691 of 833 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 07:18 AM
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- The talk about Paul Heyman and CM Punk mocking Jerry Lawler's heart attack on RAW continues on Twitter with several wrestlers weighing in such as Steve Austin and Chris Jericho. The Baltimore Sun's Arda Ocal spoke with some Superstars and got their reactions:

Steve Austin: "I believe in pushing the envelope in an aggressive fashion. But when a guy damn near dies at ringside, let it go. You look at all the contributions Jerry Lawler has made in this business: from a work standpoint, a promo standpoint and then as a broadcaster. I think that's pushing the envelope in the wrong direction. There's better ways to go get real heat than that."

Chris Jericho: "I think it was pretty obvious, don’t you? I kind of expected it. Punk’s promo was awesome. It’s wrestling so you knew it would end up as an angle sooner or later. I got the same complaints when I did the alcoholic angle (earlier this year with CM Punk). It would be like being mad at "Breaking Bad" because the dad was a drug addict or something. It’s just a TV show, after all."

Lance Storm: "Thought it was poor. Both he and Punk are capable to get real heat, no need to sink so low. Also thought it was out of character for Punk so it hurt. Punk is about Best in World and himself. Why bother joking about heart attack it goes nowhere. Interuption was okay and in character. Fake heart attack was cheap and pointless."

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post #692 of 833 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 07:54 AM
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come on now...this wasnt what the AE was about. Any half-witted WWE fan knows that this isnt what the AE was about. If you think this kind of promo was standard in the AE, then you probably didnt watch the AE.
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i wonder how the people defending this are gunna spin this now
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i wonder how the people defending this are gunna spin this now
Why do we give a fuck what Austin/Storm think, exactly?
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i wonder how the people defending this are gunna spin this now
So saith Lance Storm!

Why would the opinion of two respected veterans change the way people view this situation?
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So saith Lance Storm!

Why would the opinion of two respected veterans change the way people view this situation?
And ignore Jericho's.
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I enjoyed and was entertained by this segment. That's all I care about.

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i wonder how the people defending this are gunna spin this now
Jericho is right as usual.
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post #699 of 833 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 08:24 AM
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on a side note, Mick Foley's promo last night was fucking awesome, after he yelled "HE WAS DEAD!" the entire crowd silenced you could hear a pin drop

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Yes and yes. I swear I heard Cactus Jack. I was ready for Jovial Mick.

The other thing that I thought made it really good was the fact that what had happened to King was actually real, and people had real feelings about it. Punk was mocking a man who had nearly died and telling him it was all his fault. I don't think you can generate a situation like that in a storyline.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that it was Paul Heyman who pitched the whole thing. It seems like his sort of deal.

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The other thing that I thought made it really good was the fact that what had happened to King was actually real, and people had real feelings about it. Punk was mocking a man who had nearly died and telling him it was all his fault. I don't think you can generate a situation like that in a storyline.
No, you can't generate that since people are so jaded when it comes to what they are watching. A show can depict all kinds of assault and abuse and people just cheer like it's a good thing, but when someone just makes fun of something real it's horrible.

It's especially interesting to see how people complain about the segment being disrespectful to Lawler (who clearly must have been OK with it) when the segment included Foley coming out and arguing with Punk, actually making what happened to Lawler sink in much more with the audience (in a positive way). That was the goal that the segment reached, the mockery was just some of the travel distance.

When some complain it reminds me of the people that had Bill Maher fired for making a truthful comparison between the 9/11 terrorists and the US military.

My main complaint about the segment was that it wasn't that good. Punk had a couple of funny lines and Foley had some intense ones, but overall it just didn't reach the levels that those performers can.
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