I don't think some of you understand. They were making fun of a situation where a guy almost died. Guess whatever gets you over. Tells you how incapable Punk is that he needs to stoop so low for cheap heat to get heel heat. It has nothing to do with being sensitive, its just downright fucked up and wrong on a lot of levels. I wouldn't be surprised if WWE lost sponsors from this.
No, we understand perfectly. Just like Big Show was almost paralyzed by Kevin Nash and they used it as an angle afterwards. Almost. That word greatly alters the context.
Jerry obviously agreed to it - so what are you all getting your panties in a bunch for? I'm losing more faith in humanity than I gain, reading these boards.
Well, like many of you, i'm not a Lawler fan, and he never entertained me (or maybe when he was leaving the manhattan center because of the burger king chants!). But i was waiting for his return because like foley said, the guy was dead and then he beat the death. 9 weeks later he comes back because he loves the business and i guess he loves the guys around here (except M.striker). When punk music hit, i immediately thought in my head " wow son of a bitch". Great timing, and it worked with me.
About that heart attack parody. Vince and Lawler are very good friends, Heyman worked before with lawler (ecw invasion), and punk worked with lawler few months ago. I think there was nothing wrong with using that because that was COMING FROM LAWLER DAMN IT! Remember when cole was speaking about lawler's mother who passed away. That was coming FROM LAWLER too DAMN IT.
What is wrong with that.Is the heyman and punk's acting level too high, you actually believe the words they say, you know in real life?
I thought it was a great segment because Lawler, cole and Foley were playing face at the perfection. And Punk and Heyman'work, it was just perfect.
Oh grow some balls man, people on here are constantly moaning on here about the lack of edginess and for a return to the Attitude Era days, well thet promo was exactly like the AE days now you are complaining, is anyone ever happy on this place? And do you really think they would have done that if King was against the idea? He let Cole mock him about his mothers death a few days after it happened, King is old school like that and i'm sure he is happy to help the product in any way, so to summarise this thread should actually be about PRAISING Jerry and the fact he is willing to do anything to help this product.
Thinking about it more, I found everything expect Heyman's fake heart attack fine. It's still kind of okay since Lawler okayed it, but still, if they desensitize fans to serious incidents, they might think the next heart attack's an angle.
Well unfortunately the night Lawler had the heart attack, the thought of it being a work crossed my mind, and I'm pretty sure many other people's minds too. That's just how wrestling is. With what we know about it, almost anything can look like a work now.
Crossing which line??? I am sure, that Vince and also Lawler knew about that angle.
Sure, some people are wondering and complaining about that angle, But: this makes WWE interesting - because we're not used to such angles in the post-Attidure-era.
I too thought that the promo video with close-up film material from King's heart attack was a bit tasteless.
Then again, I felt that Punk's & Heyman's rude heel promo was not too much but also that it wasn't a total success since not enough heat was given. Realize that people are what they are but nevertheless I was a little disturbed the way many guys in the audience were actually cheering to Punk & Heyman.
I'm only half an hour into RAW atm but tbh, I can't wait to see this promo.
From what it looks like, it is just edgey TV and they will of 100% had Jerry's permission.
It's just a way to get Punk over as a heel more anyway so they're doing what they need to do. Not like taking the piss out of medical conditions hasn't been used before...
Just seen the skit, I think they were making an inside joke at the fact that WWE filmed all those bullshit CPR scenes not taking the piss out of Jerry.. Just my opinion on it...
come on now...this wasnt what the AE was about. Any half-witted WWE fan knows that this isnt what the AE was about. If you think this kind of promo was standard in the AE, then you probably didnt watch the AE.
- The talk about Paul Heyman and CM Punk mocking Jerry Lawler's heart attack on RAW continues on Twitter with several wrestlers weighing in such as Steve Austin and Chris Jericho. The Baltimore Sun's Arda Ocal spoke with some Superstars and got their reactions:
Steve Austin: "I believe in pushing the envelope in an aggressive fashion. But when a guy damn near dies at ringside, let it go. You look at all the contributions Jerry Lawler has made in this business: from a work standpoint, a promo standpoint and then as a broadcaster. I think that's pushing the envelope in the wrong direction. There's better ways to go get real heat than that."
Chris Jericho: "I think it was pretty obvious, don’t you? I kind of expected it. Punk’s promo was awesome. It’s wrestling so you knew it would end up as an angle sooner or later. I got the same complaints when I did the alcoholic angle (earlier this year with CM Punk). It would be like being mad at "Breaking Bad" because the dad was a drug addict or something. It’s just a TV show, after all."
Lance Storm: "Thought it was poor. Both he and Punk are capable to get real heat, no need to sink so low. Also thought it was out of character for Punk so it hurt. Punk is about Best in World and himself. Why bother joking about heart attack it goes nowhere. Interuption was okay and in character. Fake heart attack was cheap and pointless."
I just find it crazy that in a forum where ppl go all out on others they dont even know have issues with a scripted segment on Raw a show for a time that was all about edgy segments. Its amazing this thread is still going but will probaboy die out once SS is through.
As long Punk and Lawler discussed everything over properly then I see no problem with it and if Vince gave Punk a big ol sick smile backstage then it is A-OK in my book
Still ...Punk does his promos with no word by word script and adlibs a lot so some added things possibly could of been said/done that Jerry didn't know of.
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