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post #2321 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 02:57 AM
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RAW "LIKES"
-Nice match between Orton and Ziggler. I really want to see Ziggler come out on top though. But at least Ziggler's been getting a lot more screen time.

-Kinda weird seeing Kofi Kingston team up with Orton (Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!) but at least ADR/Ziggler got the win the tag match.

-Vickie was on fire with her promo. Crowd was loud the whole time and she kept going on. Still don't know where this Cena/AJ thing is going though. Ziggler held his own on the mic as well.

-We want to see more edgier content. So Paul Heyman faked a heart attack. I enjoyed the segment and thought everyone did well in this promo. It was able to get heat for Punk too. I'm sure King agreed on it so it's alright.

-Tyson Kidd, Justin Gabriel, Rey Mysterio and Sin Cara getting a win. All high-flyers for once. Also liked R-Truth getting a shot at the US Title.

-Surprised to see The Miz be on Team Foley. He looked like a face in the tag match too. The crowd seemed to cheer for him. Daniel Bryan was hilarious although you can tell he's really acting.

-Good main event between Punk/Cena. They always put on good matches. Nice finish too. But it most likely means Punk is retaining at the PPV.

"DISLIKES"
-Knew William Regal was going to lose to Big Show. At least we are seeing him more on TV though.

-If you need your big name star to look strong, book him against David Otunga. Since when did Otunga get a win over any big name star?

-Not sure about Kaitlyn being #1 contender again. But they need to settle that storyline.

-Why couldn't JR stay on the commentary booth when Lawler came back?

-Tensai was without Sakamoto. What happened to him? Tensai became a jobber fast.

-Was hoping for a swerve in the Ryback/Maddox match. I'm sure this isn't the last we saw of Maddox. I hope not.

Decent show. At least they cared to build for the Survivor Series PPV.


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post #2322 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 03:03 AM
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CM Punk and Foley was the only thing worth watching. What has happened to the WWE... the quality is just dropping each week. I completed the whole episode in 20 mins.
And even that part was just.....pointless. Nothing even progressed with that segment.
It feels like the exact same layout every week, I can always be guaranteed a Punk promo at the start of the second hour. Not saying it's a bad thing, but every week for the past month month and a half it's been the same layout for the 3 hours in terms of what goes down.

Not that the quality was THAT much better since they went 3 hours, but they were doing good for awhile there, then it just steadily went downhill.
The fact that this was the go home show for Survivor Series,
blows my mind (in a bad way, if that wasn't already abundantly clear)

"....or...you can just call me the soon to be crowned KING of this company!
DEAN AMBROSE is taking over the world! As of right now forget what you think you know about this industry,
because Dean Ambrose is about to blow the DOORS. OFF. EVERYTHING! SO WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!!!!"


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post #2323 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 04:31 AM
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Worst RAW in a few months, absolutely nothing happened and segments were dragging on and on.

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post #2324 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 04:34 AM
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Did anyone else besides me notice how excited and enthusiastic Michael Cole sounded after Lawler joined commentary with him? Go watch that 8-man tag team match or whatever and go to the part where the tag teams do there typical high flying moves onto the outside of the ring. Michael Cole sounded SO excited and hyper at that part of the match. And I know he usually does that to get the high flying spots over, but I haven't heard him sound like that in a long time for a boring-not-really-important RAW TV match. And I personally don't think he was doing that just to put those spots and the match itself over, I think it was because he was so happy that Lawler was there with him and it definitely showed in his commentating in that tag match and probably even motivated him. & I'm sure he looked at Lawler at one point in the match and just got really happy lol. I don't know about you guys but I thought that was interesting and kinda funny.

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post #2325 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 05:07 AM
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It's so weird... wrestling used to be fun. Something you could watch or go to and have a good time. But the booking has gotten so bad and out of touch with real wrestling fans that they pretty much unwatchable. Tonight... there was literally one good segment that had any real decent build... and surprise, Daniel Bryan was a huge part of it. I don't care if my guy wins all the time... I don't care if certain people get more attention... however, I do care that the show is a shallow cespool of meaningless matches and half assed feuds that make no sense. Hell... Maddox/Ryback and Ryback/Punk is the perfect example: two feuds that had no business existing, with idiotic finishes that just wasted time in the end. And I don't see that changing anytime soon....

And it doesn't help that every heel is the same and every single ME face cannot take a clean loss.

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My problem with the entire ending segment seemed to be that the entire thing was set-up solely so WWE could put a picture to plaster on the frontpage of WWE.Com

Actually, that's kind of my whole problem with the whole company. It's not a wrestling company, it's one big long marketing campaign. It's not about the matches, it's about the camera angles & the shilling of shit to seem relevant. Make sure you get the Wrestlemania logo in this shot, make sure you mention Twitter in this segment, get a view of the new merchandise here, a plant doing this there, a Titantron showing that there. Nothing about the show feels organic at all. It's one big ad, one big product placement.
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post #2326 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 06:15 AM
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More importantly than another long, tired, pointless and boring RAW. It was great to see Jerry back to where he belongs, amazing to see and hear him in this condition. Then of course they had to ruin such a great moment with a disgusting, cheap and disrespectful act. I thought that the "Long Live The King" shirts and the fact that they filmed the entire situation when Jerry was there unconscious in critical moments was tasteless, but this segment was pointless and tasteless on another level and had no place anywhere near a scripted wrestling or TV program in general. Things like that shows desperation more than anything else, when you need to go that far and put the characters in segments like this, shows that they know that they can't get over their performers in the borders of a TV show. Real life scenarios are good to provoke a natural reaction when you're in a scripted environment but this? Not only there's no money in it, but it's the wrong kind of heat that drive people away.

The Vickie/AJ promo was just brutal to watch, especially for Vickie's horrible delivery and the fact that they're not even explaining why she needs her to admit that she had an affair with Cena after she already lost her job.

Only good things I can remember is the Ryback booking against the ref, and the Ryback/Cena at the end of the show because that's where the money is and they know it. Not only for focusing on an interaction between them but also Cole saying over and over how Ryback and Cena will finally meet Sunday and "It will be one on one almost". Foley was good as usual in his part.

Terrible go-home show with one all-time memorable moment in King's return(before all the BS).

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post #2327 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 06:29 AM
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Nope, not even the internet care about Zack Ryder anymore. That was his last market.
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Missing JR already. Jerry and his puppies can fuck off.

A couple of good matches last night, though I'm so bored of the affair thing and the Team Hell No shenanigans. The heart attack promo was pretty funny + Mick with that intensity that's often missing these days. Punk and Cena proving again they have good chemistry in the ring. I'm looking forward to an Ironman match at some point in their rivalry.

I'm hoping the Cena win means Punk retains at SS, especially as they have held back from showing Ryback and Cena going at each other. So Punk will be wiped out early by the pair of them and then we'll have a big stand off for a bit before the scrap goes back and forth until eventually Ryback sparks out Cena and Punk finds a way to steal the pin, probably through another Maddox interference to distract Ryback, or otherwise the little chat Heyman had with him was pointless.

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It was a fair show for myself, with a few enjoyable match ups including a solid eight-man tag and main event. CM Punk's promo on Lawler was the highlight for me, superb work as usual on the mic there, I honestly dread to think of a Raw without him right now. Unfortunately the flawed scandal storyline is still being rammed down our throats, hopefully it'll conclude soon enough. It's just grown even more tedious as we have to go through the same stuff week in and week out.

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post #2330 of 2404 (permalink) Old 11-13-2012, 07:47 AM
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Everyone likes Punk.

Asks a Ryback fan why he likes Ryback.

AHAHAHAHA


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