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Was Punk too big to turn heel?

You had a guy who had this mass popularity of 'Voice of the Voiceless' whom earned respect by the crowd when he single-handly defeated everyone that came his way. You had this man who defeated every single heel that came at him, you had an evil-boss named John Laurinitis whom used Kevin Nash to try and screw him, in which Punk overcame. You even had an evil Chris Jericho who viciously attacked Punk, his family and his lifestyle.

He was built up as a top babyface and his merchandise was selling like mad. He was doing loads of talkshows and radio-talks and his name was becoming more familiar among people. This is a man who in one promo, got the eyes of thousands watching. Not only that but he also became the cover on the 'WWE 13' Video game cover.

So I just finished watching 'CM PUNK: BEST IN THE WORLD' DVD and It really thought to me that 'Was Punk too big to turn heel at the moment'?

When a heel turn came, sure it was a shocker. But what you had here was the top guy along with Cena. I mean I know as a heel he is the TOP HEEL - and hes not No.2 unlike as a babyface. But I feel Punk became a huge babyface and his months from a Tweener which transitioned him into a Face really showed this guy would not even come close to being a heel again. Especially when he went into a full-fledged, clean-cut babyface.

Its shocking if you watch a video few months back to watch Punk respecting the crowd, and his corny jokes to how he is now. I love Punk heel, but I feel Punk would see a brighter future in success as a babyface. Because lets face it, babyfaces are the image WWE prefere.
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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

He is too big to not be a heel.
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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

Out of all the top babyfaces, Punk was the most bearable imo.
And to be quite honest, WWE should have turned Cena heel during the Summer of Punk. If he aligned himself with Vince to take down Punk, it could have been the biggest angle of the past decade. A new rebellious heelish babyface against the previous and jealous face of the company. It would've been awesome.
It didn't happen, so Punk was just the number 2 guy.

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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

They turned him heel too soon imo.

They had the Batman and Superman dynamic going on yet they never teamed up to take on a Supergroup.

Why they never elevated Wade Barratt into CM Punk's current role or turn Orton instead is just why the product is so predictable these days.
They just rehash the feuds but add an extra element like Heyman into the mix to make it seem different. Its not different.
Nexas was different.

Why Wade is not the no 1 heel on Raw right now is a travesty. Orton as his 2nd in command. Wade can do the speaking. Orton can do the wrestling.

Vs Punk and Cena that would have been a great feud.
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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

No CM Punk as a face was still young and being done well enough to a degree except he never reached that big level because he was put second too first of all Kevin fucking Nash and Triple H and next from TLC to Hell in a Cell 2012 John Cena, Cena who is now the single most stale character in wrestling history 8 fucking years of this so called 10 time world champion who somehow is the ultimate underdog who we all must respect because he will never leave. WWE had the opportunity to make the business interesting again on the 1000 episode of RAW with old school and new viewers watching they could have turned Cena heel with their biggest rating in 2 years all those viewers would have seen a turning point of change but WWE dropped it and such they are now suffering with well deserved 2.5 ratings and its going to get worse its not the death of the WWE it will never die but fans are giving up and tuning out.
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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

He needed a re-boot prior to Mania so i for one was glad when it finally happened.

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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

Punk needed to be heel if he was to face Rock/Austin. If he was a babyface going against The Rock it would just be the same shit we saw with Rock and Cena trading blows. Casuals might cheer Cena slightly against Rocky, because the young 'uns love Cena no matter what. But Punk's main fanbase was a older crowd, who would undoubtedly support Rock.

Turning heel also added freshness to his reign, after Jericho I was actually looking forward to him dropping the belt as he had become stale in my opinion with that god awful love triangle with AJ.

I do agree that Orton and Wade should be top heels right now. This may happen soon, so I expect another Punk turn sometime after WM (Lesnar style in '02? With Heyman screwing him out of the title maybe).






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Re: Was Punk too big to turn heel?

I clicked into this knowing that wrestling_junkie made this. How many threads are you going to make about Punk's heel turn?

To answer the question, no, he was not "too big" to turn heel. He's not a draw, so it was not really a risk turning him. That's what separates him and Cena. While Cena is stale beyond words, they still remain reluctant to turn him because he's a huge merchandise seller and draws in the younger fanbase.
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I do agree that Orton and Wade should be top heels right now. This may happen soon, so I expect another Punk turn sometime after WM (Lesnar style in '02? With Heyman screwing him out of the title maybe).
I'm hoping the current Orton vs ADR and Wade ends up with Orton turning and perhaps to freshen up ADR him turning face(He was a huge face in Mexico I think)

ADR, Cara and Mysterio vs Wade, Orton and Christian?

The double switch will make for some interesting matches.
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Turning heel also added freshness to his reign, after Jericho I was actually looking forward to him dropping the belt as he had become stale in my opinion with that god awful love triangle with AJ.
it's what I like about punk, maybe, unlike Cena who just simply wants to remain stale and just loves to be this one dimensional jackass, cm punk wanted to add something new and fresh to the character, we know he already knows how to play both roles pretty well, so turning him back face could be done really easy, moreso with so much possibilities in the heyman/punk/lesnar future, maybe heyman screwing punk with lesnar, that right there it's a huge possibility for a heel punk to seek redemption and become face again
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