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Details on Vince's backstage blow-up

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Credit to Wade Keller at The Torch:

-As first reported in this week's new PWTorch Newsletter (now available in a text version within our iPhone/iPad app for VIP members), one of the reasons Brian Gewirtz was relieved of his duties was that his replacement, Eric Pankowski, had really impressed Vince McMahon and earned his trust over the last eight months since he was hired. Also, Pankowski is considered "a Triple H guy." Meanwhile, as has been reported, Gewirtz had been working a lot from home lately, hadn't been on the road much at all, and was only in the office a few days a week. While just a couple years ago Gewirtz was considered as close to McMahon and as trusted by McMahon as anyone besides family and Kevin Dunn, he has fallen out of favor since.

-Also of note, Vince McMahon went on a tear before Raw on Monday, but in the midst of all of that, there is a buzz because one prominent wrestler fired back at Vince and didn't hold back. Details are sketchy because so few people were in the room, but PWTorch has learned that at least one powerful player in WWE let Vince know that he is a big part of the problem and blaming others and trying to intimidate people into fearing his wrath doesn't change that fact.
Anyone want to take a stab at which wrestler it was? My money's on Orton.
 
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LOL at Curt Hawkins :D
Was hoping it would be John Cena.
Hahaha, you trolling dude? John Cena has absolutely no balls whatsoever, as if he's going to disagree with Vince, that's the reason he's at the top, cause he's a yes man and a total bitch.
 
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Fuck no, last 8 months and HHH guy? this motherfucker sure write the Sheamus vs ADR feud, we are doomed.

one prominent wrestler
Why people say Orton he usually has all he wants, remember he wanted a Kane and ADR feud, he already did one and already started the other, and after his drug problems hes in no position to blame other about the product.

Cena or Punk, one is Vince golden boy and sure can say anything he wants without getting depushed, and the other is know for having a big mouth.
 
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lol @ Punks name coming up. That dude isn't speaking up about anything. He got his and is very very comfortable where he's at. He never was a "rebel" like people want to think he is. If I had to pick any guy it would be Orton. He hasn't seemed happy the last few months especially considering they won't turn him heel when he has said wants to be one multiple times. It would make sense for him to say something not Vince & HHH's homeboy, CM Punk.

It could have been Cena. The guy is untouchable and he knows it so I could see him saying something. He has also "reportedly" had problems with Vince and management on the whole taking time off situation and his injury.
 
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lol @ Punks name coming up. That dude isn't speaking up about anything. He got his and is very very comfortable where he's at. He never was a "rebel" like people want to think he is. If I had to pick any guy it would be Orton. He hasn't seemed happy the last few months especially considering they won't turn him heel when he has said wants to be one multiple times. It would make sense for him to say something not Vince & HHH's homeboy, CM Punk.

It could have been Cena. The guy is untouchable and he knows it so I could see him saying something. He has also "reportedly" had problems with Vince and management on the whole taking time off situation and his injury.

Finally some sense. Thank you. The CM C0ck$ucking is strong in this thread. Punk sold out for a better spot and more money last year. The only way he'd speak up to Vince right now is if he were about to be de-pushed. Punk is set, no need to rock that boat.
 
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Well, I think we know who DIDN'T say anything. :cena2

I wouldn't rule Orton out but it was Punk. You just know it.

He hasn't seemed happy the last few months especially considering they won't turn him heel when he has said wants to be one multiple times. It would make sense for him to say something not Vince & HHH's homeboy, CM Punk.
Homeboy? :rolleyes: Orton is the one who's had everything on the planet handed to him, Vince has been jerking Punk around for years and is only pushing him because Punk made himself a star on his own and Vince is desperate and has no alternative.
 
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Well, I think we know who DIDN'T say anything. :cena2

I wouldn't rule Orton out but it was Punk. You just know it.



Homeboy? :rolleyes: Orton is the one who's had everything on the planet handed to him, Vince has been jerking Punk around for years and is only pushing him because Punk made himself a star on his own and Vince is desperate and has no alternative.
Poor Punk, never given a chance by Vince & WWE. I mean he was only ECW Champion, 2X MITB winner and had multiple WHC reigns before becoming WWE Champion.

The guy was pushed multiple times before. He didn't make himself a star either. That would Daniel Bryan not Punk. Punk was handed an angle about rebelling against WWE that would have gotten anybody over. The only thing brought about from all that change he was preaching was his pockets getting fatter(which is all he wanted) and ratings going down. He has been pushed for over a year and still can't draw. He's not a star. He's a good performer but doesn't have what it takes to carry a company.

Orton has been seemingly out of favor for about a year now. He's been jobbing regularly and he's still pissed about having to stay face. He has made it public multiple times that he wants to be a heel. Something Vince won't allow yet.
 
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I doubt it would be Orton, maybe 3 years ago it could of been but these days he doesn't seem needed and he'll be on the edge after his recent violation.

Cena is a yes guy with no balls. I could be wrong but he seems happy going around making kids wishes.

I'm gonna say CM Punk. Why? Because even if he held the title for 1,000 days and won every match for 5 years he still wouldn't be satisfied. He's never happy. Also he was promised changes when he signed, which haven't occurred yet. To those saying he's out just for himself go read/listen the the joey mercury story. Helping Ryder before it was cool, trying to get a lot of his friends their jobs back. He's set for life, he's saved money, could leave tomorrow and he'd be fine.
 
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Cena is a yes guy with no balls. I could be wrong but he seems happy going around making kids wishes.
Making sick children happy is a sign of lack of balls? The fuck kind of logic is that?
 
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Lol why the fuck are people saying Orton? He's filming a movie I'm pretty sure he wasn't at Raw backstage. I think its Cena, I'm sure Punk has problems with vince but to me it seems like Cena would be that guy. Vince wants him to rush his recovery cuz they need RATINGGGZZZ!!! Cena is probably pissed at that and I'm sure a ton of people are voicing their displeasure to Cena, who doesn't seem to have a stick up his ass and understands their frustration. He always says he loves this business, and I think that if its true then he knows that what Vince is doing right now is fucking up not only the current state of the wwe, but it's future as well. Cena knows Vince can't touch him so he has literally 0 to lose. Good on Cena if it is him, someone has to speak up and call out Vince on his shitty intimidation tactics. Hopefully Cena told him the shitty ratings and shitty writing are as much of Vince's fault as they are of any writer.
 
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happened last week right? Than Cena & Orton weren't there.

I am surprised nobody thought of Del Rio. That guy is the type that takes no bullshit if doesn't like what he is involved in. and he is outspoken.

Big Show & Kane are veterans who care about the business in general (so they could say the overall product is not good). Vince would listen to these two guys
 
#31 ·
I doubt it was Cena. He seems to be a bit of a suck-up. It's hard to believe he'd start ragging on Vince.

If Orton wasn't there as someone said, I'm guessing it was either CM Punk or HHH. Punk because he's an abrasive asshole so he seems the type who shoot back (not saying this is an example of him being one if so). I think Triple H is a possibility though too as he and Vince seem to have a bit of a difference of opinion when it comes to booking.
 
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