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Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

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#1 ·
Couldn't even get Tensai on his shoulders after TWO attempts and we're supposed to buy him as this monstrous powerhouse? Lol.

Once again proving that he is nothing but an incredibly fucking poor imitation. Goldberg would have thrown Tensai up there like a balloon.
 
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Tensai sandbagged buddy.
It'd be easy to blame it on Tensai. A REAL powerhouse like Goldberg or Lesnar would have got Tensai up with ease regardless, especially after two attempts, and this isn't the first Ryback strength fail. He's big but he's nowhere near as naturally powerful as a Goldberg or Lesnar.
 
#6 ·
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Ryback did it on Raw.

And do you know how hard it is to lift 300(estimate) pounds of human weight?
Yes, I do. My point isn't that it's easy and anyone should be able to do it, my point is that he's meant to be this other worldly powerhouse and he can't do something the guy he's ripping off and the sort of character he's portraying would/should be able to do.
 
#7 ·
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didn't watch (once I flipped to Raw I flipped right back to game after learning its another SD rematch) but he did it on Smackdown. so something might have went wrong.
 
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Lol these things don't happen to the real stars. What I mean by that is that the guys who go on to be great never have embarrassing things like this happen to them. Guy's like Ryback, who's being pushed to the moon based off of nothing but his look always seem to get into these embarrassing situations. He's got failure written all over him and it's only a matter of time before he starts getting booed out of the building and they turn him heel where he will fail again.
 
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Someone send post a link/gif on him doing it on Smackdown. Like I say, this isn't the first time he's failed strength wise. He's a big, strong dude but he's got absolutely nothing on the likes of Goldberg and Lesnar in the strength/power department.
 
#17 ·
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Looked like Tensai sandbagged considering Ryback didn't on Smackdown.

I really think Tensai has just had enough. He's down to jobbing. He improved so much over in Japan just to be underutilized in WWE. I could see him going back to Japan real soon.
 
#27 ·
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Looked like Tensai sandbagged considering Ryback didn't on Smackdown.

I really think Tensai has just had enough. He's down to jobbing. He improved so much over in Japan just to be underutilized in WWE. I could see him going back to Japan real soon.
Well it's his fucking fault (and Creative, to some extent) that his push failed. However, he beat Punk AND Cena and still didn't get over. At some point they just decided to cut their losses and push someone else.


Sandbagging's fucking unprofessional, though. If he is unsatisfied, then he should do something besides grief his opponent who likely had NOTHING to do with his depush.
 
#18 ·
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They should have Tensai come out and complain, show him getting hit by Ryback's finisher on SD, then him getting beat on Raw, have him throw a tantrum... Ryback comes out, hits him with the clothesline, then his finisher, and have AJ come out to fire his ass after the beatdown.
 
#32 ·
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Conspiracy Theory Time:

Cena and Tensai and probably friendly since they worked a program together and Cena even put him over... what if Cena is butthurt that Vince is trying to groom Ryback as his replacement, so he asked Tensai to sandbag him to make him look bad?
 
#35 ·
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agreed, ryback has the mass from all the steroid use (he's still bloated from his last Dbol cycle) but even someone like Cena is stronger than him, ive seen videos of Cena doing 500lb deadlifts without a ton of difficulty.. whats Ryback doing? looks like all he does is traps.. maybe he spends his days shrugging 500lbs of subway sandwiches.
:lmao
 
#38 ·
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While I'm all for ragging on guys for botching spots (especially power spots), I have to say I think you must have zero experience in lifting whatsoever if you think that how Ryback lifts guys up for that move is easy, or just as easy as lifting people in the typical fireman's carry or vertical suplex fashion (your F5 and Jackhammer comparisons)

Ryback's move is more difficult. He has less leverage the way he does it with more weight away from his body, and barely uses his legs.

If a near 400 pounder like Tensai doesn't assist with that move, it's extremely difficult to pull it off. Not like a fireman's carry or a powerbomb or a rock bottom where you can forcefully yank people into the moves fairly easily.

But yes, it was a botch and it was embarrassing. It was also obvious Tensai sandbagged him. Ryback also pulled the move off on him already on Smackdown. And on 2 people at once multiple times.
 
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While I'm all for ragging on guys for botching spots (especially power spots), I have to say I think you must have zero experience in lifting whatsoever if you think that how Ryback lifts guys up for that move is easy, or just as easy as lifting people in the typical fireman's carry or vertical suplex fashion.

Ryback's move is more difficult. He has less leverage the way he does it with more weight away from his body, and barely uses his legs.

If a near 400 pounder like Tensai doesn't assist with that move, it's extremely difficult to pull it off. Not like a fireman's carry or a powerbomb or a rock bottom where you can forcefully yank people into the moves fairly easily.

But yes, it was a botch and it was embarrassing. It was also obvious Tensai sandbagged him. Ryback also pulled the move off on him already on Smackdown. And on 2 people at once multiple times.
I'm a personal trainer, I have a lot of lifting experience. I've never once said lifting a human of Tensai's size/weight is "easy", I've simply compared to his power to the likes of Goldberg and Lesnar, both of who Ryback comes up considerably short against in the strength/power department.
 
#39 ·
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I dunno if it was a sandbagging... but I think Ryback certainly thought it was. He looked extremely angry at Tensai.

Watching the clip someone posted of him doing it on Smackdown though I think he might just have gone about it wrong. On Smackdown he put his head into Albert's arm (as if he was going to be DDTd), then put his shoulders right under his body almost like it was a fireman's carry lift. Tonight he tried to lift him differently like it was an Angle Slam, which I'd imagine as a dead lift like that is much harder (with or without his opponents help).

I dunno though, would like to see the Raw botch again before really deciding if it was a sabotage by the big fella or a technique issue.
 
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