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post #201 of 460 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 07:25 AM
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

Originally Posted by Rock316AE View Post
Wasn't a big deal at all. He got a huge reaction when he came out the second time. It was probably Tensai's fault as Ryback already did it to him perfectly on SD. You can find a lot of power wrestlers in these situations, they're performers but still human, it's happening.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

Originally Posted by Striker View Post

Some of you guys don't realize it takes two people to perform a move.
Thank you. I can't believe so much of this thread. I feel like asking whole swaths of people here whether or not they know that this thing they watch every week requires cooperation between the individuals in the ring to pull just about any move off.

However, I do think Ryback needed to place Tensai's body a bit "further down" to accurately balance and lift him and hold him.

So I think it was largely just two guys who did it almost perfectly the first time kind of messing it up the second go around. Nobody really at fault, per se. Thankfully JR was there to try to save it.

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Originally Posted by SinJackal View Post
While I'm all for ragging on guys for botching spots (especially power spots), I have to say I think you must have zero experience in lifting whatsoever if you think that how Ryback lifts guys up for that move is easy, or just as easy as lifting people in the typical fireman's carry or vertical suplex fashion (your F5 and Jackhammer comparisons)

Ryback's move is more difficult. He has less leverage the way he does it with more weight away from his body, and barely uses his legs.

If a near 400 pounder like Tensai doesn't assist with that move, it's extremely difficult to pull it off. Not like a fireman's carry or a powerbomb or a rock bottom where you can forcefully yank people into the moves fairly easily.

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post #204 of 460 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 07:41 AM
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Goldberg didn't need cooperation. Fucking weakling Reeves, he's not even naturally strong. It's so obvious that management find holes on his body and spend the pre-show pumping him up like a balloon for each RAW. WWE's so predictable nowadays. GAH!!

Don't know since Ryan hasn't even been wrestling dark matches since like June or sth. But I remember hearing him admit that too. I've got my hopes up for him improving though as he has a great attitude and is still only 30 years old. The 'E just doesn't seem to have anything for him atm.
Attitude's fine and all, but why would you acknowledge Ryan's comments about being raw and maintain he should take over from Ryback? I'm not a fan at all but he's far, far more ready than Mason Ryan is.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

Not saying that Ryback is as strong as Lesnar or even Cena, but you can't compare his finisher to theirs. The fireman's carry is pretty much designed to be able to lift large amounts of weight, it's much easier than what Ryback has in his finisher.

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Spear + Jackhammer was a beast combo finisher. Ryback might look impressive but his finisher is meh IMO.

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

What sort of a stupid thread is this?.. Even a idiot with 1 eye and dead brain cells would understand that the fat shit Tensai sandbagged Ryback badly, not once but twice! And everyone saying "Cena/Lesnar would have done that easily bla bla" are just as stupid IMO. Lesnar couldnt lift Holly for a powerbomb once... why? because that assclown sandbagged Lesnar and got his neck broken in the process. If anyone would have ever sandbagged for Cena, Cena would have shat his pants, but we all know nobody has balls to do that to Vince's private bitch.

I guess I am just wasting time here because the 1st 2 pages clearly tells this discussion is for 12 yr old retards.


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Re: Oh Dear Ryback...

Originally Posted by NathWFC View Post
It'd be easy to blame it on Tensai. A REAL powerhouse like Goldberg or Lesnar would have got Tensai up with ease regardless, especially after two attempts, and this isn't the first Ryback strength fail. He's big but he's nowhere near as naturally powerful as a Goldberg or Lesnar.
correct. this is what I noticed too. The Roidback is real buff and all but he isn't as powerfull as Goldberg or Lesnar. Those guys could lift opponents even though they are sandbagging.

It is a known fact that bodybuilders like Batista, Triple H and Ultimate Warrior aren't as strong as they look like. Have you ever seen a workout video with them? nothing special for a guy of that size.

Don't get me wrong the guys mentioned above are still pretty strong and also The Ryback but they can't beat Goldberg and Lesnar when comes to pure power wrestling.
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Lol I just had to laugh. And when Ryback couldn't pull it then he decided to end the match with a clothesline which funny as hell. Not sure whose fault it was.
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post #210 of 460 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 09:08 AM
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I was laughing my ass off when Ryback yelled "Stupid" after the botch. I know he always says it but after the botch it was just hilarious to see.
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