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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#2,952 ·
Punk only became a draw (merchandise wise) when he started to act like a little edgy version of john cena also he does appeal to kids with his hero character and standing to the heels and the evil boss
orton will never become a huge draw with his current character which really doesn't appeal to kids and women enoughwho are the biggest fan base of today product
 
#2,955 ·
Punk only became a draw (merchandise wise) when he started to act like a little edgy version of john cena also he does appeal to kids with his hero character and standing to the heels and the evil boss
orton will never become a huge draw with his current character which really doesn't appeal to kids and women enoughwho are the biggest fan base of today product
Are you sure about that?
 
#2,954 ·
Fact? fact is that Punk is the most irrelevant WWE champion in wrestling history and made the title so meaningless that WWE were so desperate they went to Johnny Ace to save them the business. Punk will never be bigger than Orton in any way, that's a fact. Hell, Orton drew more money in 2009(when he was the undisputed top draw in the industry)than Punk will make in 10 careers, and put on more great matches in one month than Punk did in his entire, 7 years forgettable run. That's real comedy.

Bryan Alvarez pointed out on a funny thing during Punk's horrendous promo on RAW, "I'm going to beat Bryan and save the title and then watch Cena kick your ass" which means that he already knows how much of a failure he is and the fact that Ace is main eventing a PPV over him :lmao
 
#2,967 ·
idiots
So you say punks reign doesn't average 3.5 ratings but Orton did.

Yet Rock comes back is the biggest thing in wrestling and can't do a fucking 3.3

Why do you want to compare 2012 to 1999 when it is not the same thing.

One segment no matter how good it does can't overcome 7 fucking segments with kofi,swagger,sheamus,ziggler,ryder,divas,backstage skits and stupid angles.

Don't blame punk moron.

just like rock not delivering good ratings for the road to wrestlemania was not his fault
 
#2,971 ·
With Punk from all indicators he didn't move the needle as a main eventer. The whole "Summer Of Punk", which did get a lot of internet attention, and some mainstream attention. Didn't move the ratings(in fact I believe the ratings went slightly down during that time period, a tenth of a point or so). And as far as buyrates, he did increase the MITB ppv slightly, but you could easily say that is offset by the decline in the SummerSlam ppv that he headlined from the year before buyrate.

With The Rock WWE definitely did devalue him intentionally, and did decrease his drawing power because of that fact. With Punk even if WWE hadn't "sabotaged" or "sandbagged" his main event run, he still wouldn't have delivered at the box office.
 
#2,976 · (Edited)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wrestling Observer Newsletter

- As noted before, the May 7th WWE RAW Supershow from Greensboro, North Carolina scored a 3.01 cable rating with 4.30 million viewers. The first quarter-rating was a 3.50 but things fell apart from there.
In the segment breakdown, Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes lost 378,000 viewers and Kofi Kingston vs. Dolph Ziggler lost 465,000 more viewers. Kelly Kelly and Layla vs. Maxine and Natalya lost another 207,000 viewers. Sheamus and Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho and Alberto Del Rio at the top of the hour gained 191,000 viewers, which is weak for that timeslot - doing a 2.89 quarter-rating.

The Miz vs. Brodus Clay gained 55,000 viewers in what is usually a losing segment. Paul Heyman's return gained 123,000 viewers. CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan and Lord Tensai in the overrun actually lost viewers - 105,000 for a 2.94 rating. It's almost impossible to lose viewers in the overrun because you've got people tuning into the USA Network for their next show.
FIRST OVERRUN TO LOSE VIEWERS IN HISTORY:(
 
#2,977 ·
FIRST OVERRUN TO LOSE VIEWERS IN HISTORY:(

2008
6/9
Then, in the scary stat of the night, HHH vs. Jeff Hardy with Cena at ringside, plus the $250,000 giveaway lost 222,000 viewers. I can’t even remember the last time a Raw main event lost viewers in the overrun, or the last time the main event did a 2.99 rating.
6/16
The absolute shocker was the HHH vs. Jericho main event lost 205,000 viewers to a 3.13 overrun. The main event almost never goes down, let alone a match that hasn’t been done in years like that and I can’t give an explanation as to why.
:hhh
 
#2,982 ·
Re: What would make raw more entertaining ?

CM Punk actually getting his edge back ans cutting good promos frequently
The Rock returning again for his next feud
Brock Lesnar being on TV more often
Stone Cold Steve Austin returning for one last run
Cheis Jericho vs Randy Orton feud with Randy given more mic freedom and character freedom.
 
#2,986 ·
There is a reason why Steve Austin has been playing down his potential return against CM Punk and is far more interested in facing Brock Lesnar at Mania than any other person on the roster. Obviously, the reason is the money for his return match, which undoubtedly Brock would be significantly bigger on the return than CM Punk. Austin also has an ego where he wants his match to be a big-time draw in the history books of pro wrestling, just so he can say it.
 
#2,994 ·
Re: What would make raw more entertaining ?

Less reliance on old faces. We've had HHH, Nash, Rock, Jericho and now Lesnar in the top level feuds since July last year (with a side order of HBK). At least involve the up-and-comers/mid-carders more.

With the exception of Heyman....h'd probably breathe new life in, certainly more so than comatose Lawler.

The WWE Champion should be the main event. Not Cena vs (insert name here).

Less "Moments Ago" replays for the love of God. I was watching it when it happened....I don't need to see Josh Mathews get pulverise by Lesnar for the umpteenth time...or Cena attempt to stare down a camera....or Nash belt HHH with a hammer (that segment was replayed so often week in, week out, I could probably still recite it off by heart.)

And at risk of sounding butthurt...either more time than 30 fucking seconds for the Divas...or don't bother at all.


The good thing about Raw at the moment is at least Cena's out of the WWE title hunt (for now), and there are title defences happening on Raw too which keeps it interesting.
 
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