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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#4,244 ·
:lol .Another week, another 100k viewer dropped from this part time electrician. Seriously, who was its idea that somebody that looks like a Pizza Hut delivery guy could pass as the main champion of any combat sport or any sports entertainment ever?
Just stop it fpalm. Can you not read? Meltzer said the show opened STRONG, and "only" lost 200k viewers for quarter 2. Have you not seen what second quarters usually loose?
 
#4,245 ·
:lol .Another week, another 100k viewer dropped from this part time electrician. Seriously, who was its idea that somebody that looks like a Pizza Hut delivery guy could pass as the main champion of any combat sport or any sports entertainment ever?
You don't know how to read ratings. Post above me sorts you out. + let's not forget multiple advertisements.
 
#4,246 ·
Please also read here and here, the second link is from last week.

Firstly, one thing I absolutely hate is when they throw two quarters together and come up with a 'loss'. Dolph vs Swagger went over two quarters (Q3/Q4) yet they 'claim' that they lost 22k. Anyway here's what I have:

Q1 - 3.51 rating / 5.04 million
Q2 + Q3 - 3.34 rating / 4.80 million
Q4 - 3.33 rating / 4.78 million
Q5 - 3.74 rating / 5.34 million
Q6 - 3.13 rating / 4.62 million
Q7 - 3.12 rating / 4.61 million
Q8 + Overrun - 3.74 rating / 5.19 million

For the purpose of the following, I've broken up Q8 and Q9 into two separate ratings so that the breakdown below makes sense. The overrun obviously had more viewers than Q8 yet at the moment the breakdown wouldn't support that. So:

Q8 - 3.37 rating / 4.98 million
Overrun - 3.70 rating / 5.50 million

Q8 and overrun cannot be 3.74 rating, otherwise the overrun is higher than 3.74 rating, contrary to what the breakdown says. So:

Q1 - 5.12 million (0.08 gain) <-- 2 minutes stripped out; Opening Segment
Q2 - 5.12 million (0.32 gain) <-- 6 minutes stripped out; Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan
Q3 - 4.97 million (0.17 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan, Vickie/Dolph/Swagger backstage, Laurinitis/Otunga/Show backstage, Dolph vs Swagger
Q4 - 4.95 million (0.17 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Dolph vs Swagger, Triple H/No Way Out promo, Raw 100th moment, Heyman's entrance
Q5 - 5.53 million (0.19 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Triple H/Heyman segment, start of Del Rio vs Santino
Q6 - 4.74 million (0.12 gain) <-- 3 minutes stripped out; Del Rio vs Santino, Cyndi Hauper hype, 5 minutes of that segment
Q7 - 4.78 million (0.17 gain) <-- 4 minutes stripped out; Lauper segment, Primetime Players vs Primo and Epico
Q8 - 5.42 million (0.44 gain) <-- 7 minutes stripped out; Raw 1000th promo, Laurinitis entrance and promo
Overrun - 5.50 million (0.00 gain) <-- no commercials (obviously)

So the one person that said Q2 lost on Q1 may want to redact his statement...
 
#4,250 ·
Ah, interesting... so the tag match itself didn't even lose viewers (or many viewers)... which is great for Punk/Bryan/Kane. Not sure about Sheamus since he's the odd man out since he's not really involved in the feud, but at the very least he certainly didn't hurt to be added. And it only lost when stuck in Q3 with other stuff.

So Foley, Lauriatis, Punk, Sheamus, Bryan, Kane, Heyman, HHH, Cena, Big Show, and Otunga were in all the big numbered segments (over 5 million). I think Vince last week brought some older fans back and they decided to stick around this week and see what would happen. I'm sure "Lesnar responding to HHH" advertisement also drew in some viewers... even though Lesnar never showed up, the implication might've been enough for some.
 
#4,248 ·
6/18 Santino Marella vs. Alberto Del Rio lost 711,000 viewers

5/28 Alberto Del Rio vs. Santino Marella lost 733,000 viewers, which is awful for that spot in the show, doing a 2.52 rating (second lowest quarter hour on a regular non-holiday Raw show of the last 14 years, ahead of only a 2.47 quarter on the 9/12 show for a Kofi Kingston vs. Miz match).

5/21 Santino Marella doing the angle with Ricardo Rodriguez lost 521,000 viewers. Randy Orton vs. Alberto Del Rio lost 252,000

Del Rio and Santino are death to viewership
 
#4,256 ·
DMN's breakdowns are in depth and a better way at looking at what gains and loses, love it. Tag match to open didn't really lose at all since it factored in with backstage segments.

Santino and/or ADR are losing viewers every single week...and these people are tuning out in BIG numbers.
 
#4,258 · (Edited)
Of course its "flawed" unless we get the minute by minute ratings like the WWE does anything we try to breakdown here will be "flawed". But, Its ALOT less flawed than just the normal breakdown saying this 15 minutes gained so many viewers and this 15 minutes lost so many viewers w/o any details.

But because the #s aren't showing what you want to post then of course shit on the report.
 
#4,259 ·
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ks-number-one-in-percentage-increases/137441/

Those are DVR ratings for tv shows. It really makes me wonder what the Raw ratings are if you include DVRs. A show like 30 Rock which gets about 3.4M viewers, increased by over 1.2M thanks to DVR ratings(meaning 4.6M viewers). Another show like Whitney which gets about 4.2M viewers, increased by about 1.2M viewers(meaning about 5.7M) thanks to DVR.

So Raw could be following a similar trend. Having over 1M DVR viewers(and who knows how many viewers that just watch online as well)
 
#4,261 ·
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ks-number-one-in-percentage-increases/137441/

Those are DVR ratings for tv shows. It really makes me wonder what the Raw ratings are if you include DVRs. A show like 30 Rock which gets about 3.4M viewers, increased by over 1.2M thanks to DVR ratings(meaning 4.6M viewers). Another show like Whitney which gets about 4.2M viewers, increased by about 1.2M viewers(meaning about 5.7M) thanks to DVR.
Nah, Raw usually average between 250,000-400,000 DVR viewers.

According to WWE, their quarterly reports, between the period January-March this year their ratings went up by 0.3 thanks to DVR.
WWE reports that the average rating was 3.5 ( included DVR ), when the normal rating ( not DVR ) showed it being 3.15.
 
#4,260 ·
I find it funny when internet darlings like CM Punk lose viewers, you get all kinds of excuses like "Ratings are flawed, ratings dont matter" and all kinds of analysis trying to prove they draw but when the same happened to Orton or john morrison no one gave a shit. The same ratings that are flawed now were perfect then to make fun of Orton and Morrison.

Gotta love the IWC.
 
#4,262 ·
:lol .Another week, another 100k viewer dropped from this part time electrician. Seriously, who was its idea that somebody that looks like a Pizza Hut delivery guy could pass as the main champion of any combat sport or any sports entertainment ever?
Actually, with his size and his tats, Punk could easily be mistaken for a UFC fighter.

And:
Q1 - 5.12 million (0.08 gain) <-- 2 minutes stripped out; Opening Segment
Q2 - 5.12 million (0.32 gain) <-- 6 minutes stripped out; Sheamus/Punk vs Kane/Bryan

So, you should probably hush now.
 
#4,268 ·
^Same with NBA. They barely had anyone DVR those games.

I wasn't trying to argue that Raw is as popular as some top shows on CBS/NBC and stuff. I'm just saying that there are more people who watch Raw than people on here think(in USA at least). So don't freak out when you see 4.5M viewers, cause actual number who watched it will be up to 5M(though compared to most cable tv shows,5M is a good number)
 
#4,274 ·
Here..

- As noted before, the June 18th WWE RAW Supershow scored a 3.40 cable rating with 4.97 million viewers. This is the best rating RAW has done since the day after WrestleMania 27.

In the segment breakdown, CM Punk and Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan and Kane lost 241,000 viewers from the opener that started strong. Dolph Ziggler vs. Jack Swagger lost 22,000 more viewers. The segment with Paul Heyman and Triple H gained 559,000 more viewers for a show-high 3.74 quarter rating.

Santino Marella vs. Alberto Del Rio lost 711,000 viewers. The segment with Heath Slater, Wendi Richter, Cyndi Lauper and Roddy Piper lost 12,000 more viewers. John Cena vs. David Otunga and John Laurinaitis in the main event gained 573,000 viewers to a 3.74 quarter rating.
 
#4,281 ·
Yeah, same with me. But you red repped me because "it was my opinion". What you also say is you opinion, you dont have facts. In the Vince interview with Bloomberg. It showed that what they earned on the wrestling product had gone down. But what they earned on media had gone up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNxn85vfgcE 6:18 to 7:15. So no what i said isnt a opinion, it is proved on this video.

So i am right that the interest in wrestling has gone down, and what they earn with the wrestling product itself is less. But wwe earn the money elsewhere Advertising, merchandising, books, video games...
 
#4,278 ·
Like how people try and come up with excuses for why Punk segments drop viewership. So the latest is the ads? By that logic when any segments drop in viewership it isn't any of the wrestlers faults then? Bit of a lame excuse isn't it? Punks segments have always lost viewers it isn't anything new. Some weeks they do alright.
But look at this weeks, his segment lost 275k viewers while Cenas gained 590k. That shows as much as we dislike Cena he is a huge draw. He is the number one guy by miles. People talk about Punk being the 2nd top guy but look at his numbers, they are pretty crap. To me that isn't a reflection on Punks abilities it is a reflection on how the show has been designed to make one guy look better then everyone else. If something ever happened to Cena the company would be fucked. It also shows as much as people on here make Punk out to be great and popular the people away from here couldn't give a shit about him. You could put the title on anyone other then Cena and it would be the same for them.
 
#4,279 ·
Like how people try and come up with excuses for why Punk segments drop viewership. So the latest is the ads? By that logic when any segments drop in viewership it isn't any of the wrestlers faults then? Bit of a lame excuse isn't it? Punks segments have always lost viewers it isn't anything new. Some weeks they do alright.
If a segment drops in viewership in a quarter that has a lot of commercial, then yes the wrestlers shouldnt be blamed.
Of course if it was no commercial then there is nobody to blame but the wrestlers.

Goes for everyone. Not just Punk. Ive said that for several weeks now when Meltzer is being retarded and says "That 2 minute match lost 300,000 viewers" while ignoring the fact that the rest of the quarter was commercial and backstage stuff.
 
#4,285 ·
Same thing goes to Sheamus, Kane, Bryan, Orton. So stop blaming Punk when others are just like him and what's the point of bashing him as if others can do better than Punk, Cena only draws because he always gets the best storylines and always booked to be in the mainevent. Punk still sells a lot of merchandise he's #2 in men category and #1 in women category and #2 in kids category, so he's successful whether you like it or not.
 
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