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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#3,382 ·
I'd be shocked if the rating was better than poor for last night, since it was a holiday, Cena, who was the biggest draw the week before, was MIA, almost nothing is happening on Raw right now and they were fighting against LeBron. No surprise, I'm sure they knew they'd take a beating. Ho hum.
 
#3,391 ·
Never mind the four-month deluge called Monday Night Football. The three-hour Raw concept will make the ratings drop. Every entire Raw's average rating will take a major hit from it. Of course, knowing this, I don't see why anyone would necessarily freak out over it. I'm more concerned about what the move means for the actual product. Many of us remember what happened to Nitro with the three-hour move.
 
#3,393 ·
Nitro went out of business because there was WWF with quality product offering an alternative to the viewers. Its not the same case with WWE right now, there are monopoly in US market. TNA is not even in the ball park.

I willing to bet this is the primary reason why vince mcmahon has taken such huge risks from WWE network to Three hour RAW.
 
#3,396 ·
We will see how 3 hour RAW goes. It certainly isn't going to cause the WWE to go out of business like some are claiming (Rcok316AE). Comparing it to WCW is laughable too. Pretty sure WCW was never a billion dollar company. The comparison to WCW ends with the expansion to a 3 hour show.
 
#3,397 ·
3 hour Raw scares me because, as mentioned, WWE has a hard time filling two hours, how are they going to do a three hour Raw every single week? I have a strong feeling that before the end of the year, WWE will return to 2 hour Raw episodes, learning their lesson.
 
#3,398 ·
The overall rating for Raw when it does 3 hours will without a doubt be lower and I think both WWE and USA Network are fully aware of that.
So for them to pull 2.5-2.8 overall ratings I dont think is a disaster, especially against the NFL.
But im sure the internet will overreact like crazy.

If Raw was doing bad now with their 3.0-3.1 ratings then USA Network would have never bought another hour. A hour that is proven to do much lower.
In the eyes of the USA Network its what the different hours does that is important, not the overall. I think their main goal is to keep Hour 1 Atleast above 2.0 and keep the other two hours around the same they are doing now.
I just cant see them asking for more.

The last 3 hour show before Wrestlemania did hours 2.5, 3.2 and 3.4.
 
#3,399 ·
Completely agreed with you and this whole post. If anything has undercut the image of USA Network being severely anxious about Raw's ratings, it's the (in my view incredibly questionable at best) move to three hours this summer. However, I do think that this will if nothing more, be WWE/USA's stand against Monday Night Football. With the three-hour format, Raw will at least be on the air back east before the average MNF game starts up during football season.
 
#3,400 ·
The one positive I see in a 3 hour Raw each week is that they won't be able to stretch out what they're doing now and have to give a little bit of focus on the undercard. Or we'll have 4 Cena segments and 3 Cena matches.

If it wasn't for Punk/Bryan I'd be done.
 
#3,401 ·
If WWE utilized the time to actually develop midcarders, weave together intricate mid- and undercard storylines and whatnot, I think I'd pass out from shock.

I'm expecting humiliating over-the-top rope challenges involving some midcard heel with loads of potential against The Great Khali, Santino and Ricardo segments until the end of time, about 45-68 minutes, bare minimum, of each show dedicated to John Cena, a 50% increase in recaps and video packages, more grade C- celebrity tie-ins and probably another Jerry Lawler run of matches against some heel... I'm thinking Cody Rhodes. Or maybe whoever has upset Vince backstage, like The Brian Kendrick.
 
#3,402 ·
I'm expecting humiliating over-the-top rope challenges involving some midcard heel with loads of potential against The Great Khali, Santino and Ricardo segments until the end of time, about 45-68 minutes, bare minimum, of each show dedicated to John Cena, a 50% increase in recaps and video packages, more grade C- celebrity tie-ins and probably another Jerry Lawler run of matches against some heel... I'm thinking Cody Rhodes. Or maybe whoever has upset Vince backstage, like The Brian Kendrick.
:delrio:delrio:delrio

For the sake of the IWC's mental health, I hope you're wrong on that.
 
#3,404 ·
Monday’s RAW rating won’t be available until Wednesday due to the Memorial Day holiday, but early indications are that the number could dip below 3.0 once again. RAW faced stiff competition from the Boston Celtics vs. Miami Heat NBA playoff game as well as the series premiere of the History Channel’s Hatfields & McCoys series, which had a huge first night. History sent out a press release today announcing that Hatfields & McCoys became the #1 non-sports telecast in ad supported cable television history, with over 13.9 million total viewers.
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#3,405 ·
I'm DVRing the History Channel miniseries and will watch it all this next weekend. Yeah, Raw was facing that, too.
 
#3,412 ·
In all fairness, the WWE are trying to maximise their audience by appealing to all demographics, they're just doing a piss poor job at it.

In many ways, the positioning of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan have been attempts at having a more mature audience tune in every week, the problem is that they're treating these as afterthoughts to the storylines that are designed to appeal to the younger fans. It's like watching a 2 hour episode of the Mighty morphin Power Rangers with Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro making a 10 minute cameo.

The WWE knows that it can't compete with UFC's stranglehold of the 18-34 male demographic, so they aim all their focus on the dem that hasn't been cornered yet. Intelligent business strategy is only it was followed up with compelling storytelling.
 
#3,417 ·
Hour 1 - 3.918m
Hour 2 - 3.911m

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...s-single-ladies-basketball-wives-more/136104/

Hatfield and McCoys on the History channel had a mammoth 13.87 million at 21:00, so under 4 million does not surprise me.


Holy Crap, I saw the commercials for Hatfield and McCoys (which I DVR'ed and it was quite good) and thought it would do a good # but wow not that good.

As for the # for Raw btw Hatfield and The NBA play-off game the low # is not surprising. Also, not totally surprised a show focused arounf The Big Show not doing well is not a total surprise either. And not just blaming the Big Show here. A show focused around any 1 superstar is never going to bring in huge ratings #s (for the most part, I am sure there are exceptions) Wonder how long until WWE creative realizes that they need numerous involved storylines involvng all levels of the card to really interest people, rather just having one main storyline focues around ONE guy dominating the show and treating the rest of the roster as "filler"
 
#3,418 ·
Horrible number as expected. I see Show's great promo and Show/Clay doing decent(gain, for the standard of the show), other than that RAW was horrendous, hopefully next month Rey and Henry are coming back and Orton/Sheamus needs to be a RAW feud. Then in July, Lesnar can keep their head above water.

- WWE’s new primary goal is TV ratingsand their various TV products. The change in direction has been in the making for some time now and comes straight from Vince McMahon.
Can't wait for panic reports in the WWE HQ when the 2.5-2.6s will be the regular. Hopeless company, everything is backwards.
 
#3,421 ·
Horrible number as expected. I see Show's great promo and Show/Clay doing decent(gain, for the standard of the show), other than that RAW was horrendous, hopefully next month Rey and Henry are coming back and Orton/Sheamus needs to be a RAW feud. Then in July, Lesnar can keep their head above water.



Can't wait for panic reports in the WWE HQ when the 2.5-2.6s will be the regular. Hopeless company, everything is backwards.
Yeah, that will bring in the ratings. No, B-level feuds need to stay on the B-show. Vince wants Punk and Cena to work more SD's because Orton can't draw for shit.
 
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