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post #8801 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 02:42 AM
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Re: Ratings obsession?

Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
My point still stands. You're just mad that Punk is not a draw.

If he's drawing big numbers right now, you'll be like "OMG GUYZ PUNK IS A DRAW. RATINGZ ARE SO IMPORTANT".
Very true
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Re: Ratings obsession?

Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
My point still stands. You're just mad that Punk is not a draw.

If he's drawing big numbers right now, you'll be like "OMG GUYZ PUNK IS A DRAW. RATINGZ ARE SO IMPORTANT".
Why the fuck would he care about that? I think he'd be more happy that his favorite guy has been champion for over a year and about to have one hell of a feud with the Rock at the Royal Rumble.

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Re: Ratings obsession?

Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
My point still stands. You're just mad that Punk is not a draw.

If he's drawing big numbers right now, you'll be like "OMG GUYZ PUNK IS A DRAW. RATINGZ ARE SO IMPORTANT".
Not true,I'd never care if people I enjoyed drawed or not.If I like them I'll like them thats that,I don't care what ratings the guy gets or what others think of him all that matters is that I like them.

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I care about the ratings.

Because saying the ratings don't matter is just the equivalent of closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and singing whilst the show you watch turns to shit.

Like it or not (and the apologists can claim ratings have only been in 'steady decline' all they want), the quality of WWE HAS dipped dramatically in recent years, and this year alone has seen some of the worst booking decisions and storylines in recent memory. Which is proven by none other than....the ratings.

A lot of people only bring up the ratings so much because some of the more obsessive fans on forums refuse to accept that there's anything wrong with what they're watching now compared to how things used to be....if you watched Raw and hated it and someone else argued with you and claimed it was a good show...but the ratings suggested that Raw lost half a million viewers, then it's at least factual evidence that Raw actually WAS crap and you weren't just imagining it.

It's also interesting to speculate on what aspects of the shows work and what don't (by checking the ratings) because fact is, whilst a minority of people will still continute to defend WWE to the hilt and say 'the ratings don't matter to me!', many more people ARE tuning out completely on a regular basis and if nothing drastically changes for the better, then things will only get worse.

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post #8805 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 03:52 AM
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I'm 100% sure that if Punk was doing good ratings, OP would be like "See? The man is great, numbers don't lie".

Dunno what obession your talking about. I guess disccusing ratings in RATINGS THREAD is now called obsession, whatever.
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Very nice post OP. Agree 100%!

Originally Posted by Mr.Cricket View Post
OP is only mad because Punk is not a draw.
Obvious troll is obvious.

Please come with something different and maybe you'll be taken serious.

So much blind hate on one person, blaming him for the overall lack of interest in the product is just dumb. It cannot be blamed on a single person, whether you dislike him or not.

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post #8807 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 04:38 AM
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Totally agree with OP and I read this several times in the ratings thread "it doesnt matter what happens on RAW there will always be x million viewers to watch the show" and it really is (except for some stars who show up like Rock, Undertaker, etc) and for the RTWM because all the old folks who watch wrestling twice a year will be interested again.

If they had put Cena in the one year title rain and give him only the second best spots bla bla it would be the same rating. Or if they had put Cena in the Punk spot and actually give him all the end segments and PPV closing matches, it would still be like this. Also if they had give Punk all the end segments and PPV closing matches. Or Del Rio or Ziggler, even Hornswaggle.

for me its a problem to get young people interested. Everyone can watch horror movies on Youtube or MMA events, real fighting, or other brutal stuff (and porn). So why watch wrestling which is like a Disney-for-men-show (and if it wouldn´t be PG they would have even lower ratings). Back in the 80/90 kids loved to watch wrestling because it was one of the only brutal things they could watch because their father loved wrestling. Today they can get there dose of brutality everywhere.

You even cant blame Vinni Mac, becaue wrestling itself isnt an atraction anymore, which it was 10-20 years ago, because our life changed with all the internet stuff. Kids dont want to wrestle in the backyard anymore, they want to play playstation/xbox360/whatever/watch porn because its cool and wrestling isnt cool anymore and nobody will change that, no Rock title rain, no Brock/Rock/Undertaker/Austin fatal four way title unification ironman match. It will be cool for the match itself, but thats it.

The faster you get this the better your entertainment in wrestling
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post #8808 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 05:18 AM
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How can you not be obsessed with Mark *RATINGS* Henry?

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post #8809 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 06:13 AM
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I think ratings are important to all of us. if you're invested in the wrestling business as a long time fan, you don't want to see it fail, so seeing the ratings drop from 6.0-7.0 in the attitude era to 3.5 average as of last year, now to 2.5-2.7 on average, is a bit alarming. It took them 12 years to lose 50% of their audience from the ratings they were pulling in wrestling's boom period, and now going from 3.5 to 2.5 ratings they've lost almost 30% of their audience in only ONE year. And CM Punk isn't to blame, he didnt even headline PPV's for half of his title reign, its WWE's fault as a whole.

If you don't understand why ratings are so important.. the way TV networks make their money is ad revenue from airing commercials. Higher ratings = more money for the network and access to bigger names in advertising. On the other hand, when a show loses ratings, it will become less profitable for the network and risk having advertisers pull out, because they want their commercials seen by as many people as possible. If WWE's ratings get much lower they could lose advertisers and then have a real crisis on their hands, that could lead to USA network dropping WWE.

The reality is they're getting closer to TNA numbers than I ever thought possible. its a downward trend that can't be ignored.. they will rise a bit for RR through Wrestlemania, but then what? What happens next year if they're down to a 2.0 around this time? the ratings are a window into the quality of the product, theyre as low as they've ever been now which means the watered down PG product isn't keeping people watching loyally like it used to.

3 hour raws, kid-friendly content and and failure to make new stars is whats killing the business. Why do you think they're forced to bring Rock, Lesnar, HHH and others at the big shows? they don't have anyone else to headline them to make them feel important, and that's scary for WWE's future when these old stars can't go anymore.

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Wow some people are so pathetic

Not to mention names.

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