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post #8781 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-13-2012, 07:42 PM
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Ratings obsession?

Why are so many people on here obsessed with ratings. Nobody but the WWE, Share Holders, TV Companies and Wrestlers should care. It doesn't matter to us as fans, and whats worse is that way too many people band around the ratings of individual wrestlers, but yet don't understand the context of ratings and what they mean in to the wider field of wrestler and TV culture.

Its laughable to see people desperately clasp at straws and blame low ratings on specific wrestler (at the moment CM Punk). Not considering the poor current product and writing, constant coasting to RTWM, 3rd hour killing ratings, NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, WWE not moving with the times, recession, natural disasters, watered down product, lack of top tier drawing full timers (only two to my mind), the rise of live streaming, youtube and faster internet speeds, tivo, sky +, time zones, inconsistant and dropped feuds, 5 years of pushing only one guy(Cena), transitional talent period to name but a few.

To blame someone like CM Punk for low ratings is ridiculous and taken way out of context. And if he walked away from WWE forever tomorrow, im pretty sure that WWE would lose quite a lot of viewers.

In 2012 nobody draws anymore, with the odd exception a small handful of people but only depending on who they face. The Rock been the only person who would draw no matter who he faced.

And if your still bothered I suppose in 2012 you judge who is a draw by who sells the most merch, who features on video game covers (putting your face on the front of a video game and promotional stuff in the main stream public means that WWE have decided that they think you are bigger to draw extra game buys), dvd sales, twitter/facebook/klout. All of which he scores high on.

But having said all that it shouldn't matter to use as fans and we should be more bothered about the quality of wrestling and promos. If you dont like CM Punk for them reasons then fair enough but blaming ratings on him is simply moronic.

As The Undertaker once said - Fans have forgotten they are fans.

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CM Punk - Dolph Ziggler - Daniel Bryan - Cody Rhodes - Damien Sandow - Seth Rollins - Wade Barrett - Dean Ambrose - Roman Reigns - Christian - Alberto Del Rio



Shawn Michaels - Stone Cold - Chris Jericho - The Undertaker - Bret Hart - Roddy Piper -- Mick Foley

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Re: Ratings obsession?

Though I feel like this post will either be largely ignored or shitted on, you are right 100%.

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It's funny how The Undertaker says these things when he's in rougher shape than EDGE and many other talents.

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It's funny how The Undertaker says these things when he's in rougher shape than EDGE and many other talents.

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The Undertakers career started in 1984 Edges Started in 1997 - The Undertaker put on possibly match of the year 8 months ago.


CM Punk - Dolph Ziggler - Daniel Bryan - Cody Rhodes - Damien Sandow - Seth Rollins - Wade Barrett - Dean Ambrose - Roman Reigns - Christian - Alberto Del Rio



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CM Punk - Dolph Ziggler - Daniel Bryan - Cody Rhodes - Damien Sandow - Seth Rollins - Wade Barrett - Dean Ambrose - Roman Reigns - Christian - Alberto Del Rio



Shawn Michaels - Stone Cold - Chris Jericho - The Undertaker - Bret Hart - Roddy Piper -- Mick Foley

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Re: Ratings obsession?

OP is only mad because Punk is not a draw.


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post #8787 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-13-2012, 08:31 PM
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post #8788 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-13-2012, 08:31 PM
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What everyone fails to realize is that video of undertake was back in 2003. nearly 10 years ago BACK when wrestling was fucking good and people who complained aobut this are idiots and should of appreciated a good product for what we had. if we had a time machine and would of seen this horrible product coming with john cena shoved down our throats for years. ratings matter to fans because we all know if the lower they get maybe theres hope of the product changing.

Anyways the entire product sucks and should be blamed as a whole for the low ratings.
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100% agree with OP.
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Seriously man, grow up.
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