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post #8201 of 9175 (permalink) Old 11-30-2012, 06:16 AM
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Or Ziggler or even it seems a guy like Titus. A lot of the characters fall flat now because they come of as stilted and fake.. too scripted. Most wrestlers are not actors. And even so, wrestling is a business in which acting doesn't quite work in the same way. With the amount of time these guys are the characters, it just seems it's best that they amplify aspects of their own personality.
Biker Taker and i like how masked Kane evolved in 03. i remember when it seemed like orton was evolving then he devolved.

i like what they did with titus last week on commentary and what they've been doing with Ziggler and Miz lately. Ziggler has been on a great roll for the last 2 weeks hopefully they can keep it up for months to come because he's really showing he has what it takes to be entertaining and put over a feud.

aside from this weeks RAW i've found the WWE over the last 2 weeks as a little more enjoyable than they've been for most of this year. I really like how they're handling Miz now as well and the tag division(despite still not giving anyone any legit feuds). It just seems like instead of focusing on these positives you guys just focus on the negatives instead.

Also i lol'd at the kids and casual fans getting butthurt by Punk's promo on Lawler. Shame how those feelings of disgust didn't show in the live audience. i've been waiting for Punk to get super heel heat but it just doesn't seem to be happening.


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'kin hell at that 2.3 number

That's as hideous as Punk's physique.
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post #8204 of 9175 (permalink) Old 11-30-2012, 10:35 AM
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'kin hell at that 2.3 number

That's as hideous as Punk's physique.
It really is disastrous. Punk on the intertubes (All 200 of 'em) say otherwise, though.
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And when he let Punk cut loose for one night only in the summer of last year, that actually worked. But they haven't let him do anything remotely that interesting since.
thats easy for you to say. They let him go loose more than any other Superstar after that. Just that the Pipe Bomb near MITB was the absolute best, they can't duplicate or improve that. Back then it was a big thing to 'break loose', PG was restricting things alot. Once he's already done it, don't expect another pipe bomb that is just as big. Since then he has had MANY great promos where he rips into other Superstars and the company itself, they have let him loose. His promos with Heyman every week are gold. Yes nothing can match the level of MITB, but Punk is still the most entertaining thing in WWE, and with upcoming feuds like Punk vs Rock we will probably see some more pipe-bombs.

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Coming from the guy with ADR in his avatar

I don't give a shit if he's a draw or not. I watch Punk to be entertained not care about ratings every week.
But yet you're in the ratings thread

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Although I agree with the idea of letting wrestlers go a bit more loose on the mic, I disagree with it "helping" in any way. Punk got the okay and did it several times and it didn't make him a "star" in the literal sense of the word. He's just become the new version of Cena that smarks jerk off to but is even more boring and also possesses 0% of Cena's star power. Thankfully, many of the casuals and old fans that returned for Raw 1000 made a clear statement that none of them give a fuck about Punk by tuning out of the shows completely. I wonder if they will continue to push him as hard as this dreadful year after he loses the title.
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Although I agree with the idea of letting wrestlers go a bit more loose on the mic, I disagree with it "helping" in any way. Punk got the okay and did it several times and it didn't make him a "star" in the literal sense of the word. He's just become the new version of Cena that smarks jerk off to but is even more boring and also possesses 0% of Cena's star power. Thankfully, many of the casuals and old fans that returned for Raw 1000 made a clear statement that none of them give a fuck about Punk by tuning out of the shows completely. I wonder if they will continue to push him as hard as this dreadful year after he loses the title.
That's a fact, huh? You guys.
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That's a fact, huh? You guys.
Ratings are based on facts, so yeah, I don't know what you're trying to challenge here. Can it be made more crystal clear when Raw 1000 gets nearly 4.0 but the next week, they are back down again? We can pretty much establish it as a fact that the returning fans saw Punk close the show with the "big storyline" and had no interest in it, so they tuned out and went back to whatever they do around that time.
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Ratings are based on facts, so yeah, I don't know what you're trying to challenge here. Can it be made more crystal clear when Raw 1000 gets nearly 4.0 but the next week, they are back down again? We can pretty much establish it as a fact that the returning fans saw Punk close the show with the "big storyline" and had no interest in it, so they tuned out and went back to whatever they do around that time.
Yeah, expect that's not a "fact". It's you making an assumption and trying to pass it off as a fact.

Ratings are down and Punk isn't some kind of wonder draw. Those are statements to work off of. Not "Hey guys, thanks for tuning out to show support in your hatred for Punk lol". That's just... dumb.
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