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post #7051 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 09:30 AM
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Punk gained 161,000 viewers in his segment with Vince early in the show.


The Ryback vs. Dolph Ziggler and David Otunga squash match gained 512,000 viewers. That's Ryback + two guys who don't draw. Ryback drew more than three times as many viewers than Punk could with Vince McMahon himself on screen too.
While Ryback did pull some nice numbers you're coming to the conclusion in the wrong way. It's pretty irrelevant how much you gain unless you look at how much was lost previously, plus that it matters when your segment is on.

Ryback was on the 9 pm segment, which is one of the most beneficial ones, and he came after a segment that just lost 427k viewers, so a relevant gain there was pretty much a given when you have a good push. It's also very wrong to directly compare it to the quarter with Punk and Vince, since that quarter also had a match with Brodus Clay and ADR, who of course brought the quarter down, plus that it came after a quarter that wasn't as low rated as the one preceding Ryback's quarter. It would have been different if Punk and Vince had the quarter to themselves, like on the previous show.

But while the reasoning was wrong we can still see that Ryback did well because he reached a high total number, which is the relevant part. It shows that the sudden extreme push is working as he's previously lost viewers in his own segments but now competed well with the other peaks on the show.

Just pointing out that coming to the answer in the correct way is more important than reaching the answer.

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post #7052 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 09:31 AM
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Ryback bringing dem ratings like a real draw! Over half a million when wrestling two rating killers in Ziggler and Otunga.
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Decent ratings for the modern day WWE. Can't really hope for much higher at the moment in my opinion.
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post #7054 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 11:27 AM
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Punk: 9-0-1 in last 10 PPVs. 330+ days without losing a title match. 100% win ratio with one no contest since winning the title.

Cena: 6-6-2 over last 14 PPV appearances. 50% win rate, and two no contests.

How is Cena the odds and Punk not? He always wins at PPVs lately while Cena is losing half the time. You've got it backwards bro. This isn't 3+ years ago. Cena's been jobbing quite a bit, even on PPVs.

Punk is being booked the way Cena haters hated, and Cena's being booked the way Cena haters wanted, yet you guys are still blowing Punk and bashing Cena with hypocrisy in full effect. You guys clearly will never be happy about it unless they bury and fire Cena.




Perhaps the dumbest post of the bunch.

Ryback isn't a draw? k. Let's review.

Punk gained 161,000 viewers in his segment with Vince early in the show.


The Ryback vs. Dolph Ziggler and David Otunga squash match gained 512,000 viewers. That's Ryback + two guys who don't draw. Ryback drew more than three times as many viewers than Punk could with Vince McMahon himself on screen too.


The contract signing at the end with Vince, Ryback, Cena, and Punk gained 766,000 viewers.

Ryback again associated with the biggest ratings gain of the show. You can't credit Punk or even Vince because their gain was poor earlier in the show. Cena, of course, is partly responsible for the big jump as he usually is, but I'd also credit Ryback far more than I would Punk due to the ratings they each pulled earlier in the show.


Perhaps you should wait until the ratings are posted before you consider making such an ignorant statement next time?
You're not taking into account when segments happens as well as what the previous segment did.
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post #7055 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 11:54 AM
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Clearly, fans of Ryback have just as many brain cells to rub together in that empty cranium as their beloved former "High Dosage" member in Ryan Reeves. 9PM segment has constantly gained that amount of viewers every single week, but like the vultures in a political debate, they jump on it like Fox News.

I do have one question for anyone who might feel that Dwayne Johnson "owes" the business. Is it just him, or is it anyone who moved on to other things? Should Luna Vachon get heat for running a towing company instead of working on RAW? Should Maven be critiqued on his Home Shopping Network bits instead of wrestling?

Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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post #7056 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 11:57 AM
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that 9pm slot could have had a diva match and it would have at least gained 200k
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Surprised that the Punk segment in the 1st hour gained at all.

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post #7057 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 11:59 AM
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Haters gonna hate.

What a rating, Ryback.

Take a bow, son. Take a fucking bow.
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Ryback and CM Punk bringing in those numbers. No need to fight, marks from both sides.
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Ryback and CM Punk bringing in those numbers. No need to fight, marks from both sides.
This, I don't see why marks of both worlds are trying to make their points by posting long-winded, illogical posts full of excuses and bias why either one of these sucks when both of them do their job right. CM Punk owns as a heel, Ryback owns as a monster, end of story. If people just weren't so restricted that there's more in wrestling than beeing a roid monkey or a built-fat "technical wrestler" most people would be far more happy. I liked both Chris Jericho in his prime and Goldberg, going by that theory CM Punk and Ryback are shitty ripoffs that should be jobbing on heat. Reality check, they're still two good performers in their roles and I don't mind them at all, in fact I look up to those guys segments the most next to Team Hell No.
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post #7060 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 01:05 PM
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Did you just imply Punk is a Jericho rip off

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