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post #6681 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-03-2012, 11:57 PM
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Holy shit at that breakdown.

Two surprises for me... 1) surprised Santino/Slater gained viewers to be honest. Wonder what led to that. 2) I know Del Rio isn't necessarily a ratings draw, but this guy is a former two time WWE Champion, MITB winner and the only 40 man Royal Rumble winner in history...and his match with Kofi Kingston loses nearly a million viewers. Absolutely terrible.



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post #6682 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-04-2012, 12:26 AM
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Well I think we can agree on that, he's relatively new. But its gonna happen soon regardless trust me, Vince is high on him and next year he would probably end up as champion.
The numbers that Ryback's pulled in over last few weeks isn't exactly reflective of the desire casuals appear to have that Vince certainly does in putting him on that podium is it?

What's your desire in seeing this guy as being a figurehead? What will he bring besides the stereotypical image?
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post #6683 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-04-2012, 02:37 AM
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post #6684 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-04-2012, 06:23 AM
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Its simple really. If people are not willing to tune in to see your champion, buy PPVs on his name then tell me why this guy needs to remain the WWE champion.

You can blame the midcard all you want but the low viewership two weeks in a row, clearly proves Punk as WWE champion is a failed project.
For 9 months Punk was treated as second best if even. Since Raw 1000 he's been the central point of the show. Now granted, he hasn't been doing any good but you can't treat any champion in that position like dirt for 9 months out of 10 and then suddenly expect masses of people to buy into him as a legit show carrying superstar because all the actual show carrying superstars left. Taking the title off Punk solves nothing. This weeks Raw we got some insight into what WWE looks like without any star power. Punk is the 'top star' right now on a roster where there are no stars. There is a lot of merit in what you're saying and I spent a few posts saying the same thing myself but it isn't as black and white as that either. Punk is essentially feuding with nobody right now. He's in limbo while WWE sit on their hands waiting to see if John Cena can compete at the PPV. They haven't treated him the way a champion of 300+ days should have been treated for the duration of his reign so is it any bit of wonder he's bombing in the ratings?


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What I've learned from the last several pages of this thread is that Starbuck's dad sounds like a very cool guy.



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1998, Austin was The Man. 1999/2000 is different story. Ofcourse The Rock surpassed him completely and became the bigger star/draw/legend in the industry.
Lol. No, Rock rode out on Austins success.
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Starbucks father is pretty cool. I've talked to him a few times.

He's a 42 year old pro wrestler turned COO. He's got a giant nose too.
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Starbucks father is pretty cool. I've talked to him a few times.

He's a 42 year old pro wrestler turned COO. He's got a giant nose too.
How do you know that!!! Fuck. I've been found out. Damn. Dad is gonna bury me now. No WWE title for me.


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Trying to look at WWE from a distanced view (casual), what reason do non-hardcore WWE fans have to tune in? They have two storylines going, Punk/Heyman and Team Hell No, everything else is so downplayed in importance by the booking, effort in writing or mic effort/time that it doesn't even matter to most regular viewers, let alone fans who barely watch. Why should the TV viewers care, if WWE themselves, and their commentators ironically make most feuds sound like filler material, talking about unrelated things during matches or half the roster getting jobber entrances nowadays.

If they wanted to gain more mainstream popularity, they will have to try to make every character and storyline as worthwhile as possible, watching three hours of stagnation minus the ME and one Tag Team isn't going to cut it. By worthwhile, I also mean presented as a big deal, rather than an unimportant feud.

As for individual draws, there's very few (if none at all) that unconditionally draw regardless of how much effort was put in the storyline, who they feud with and where that storyline is placed card wise apart from John Cena. But then you compare the way Cena has been booked for years with full-force (or any other wrestlers that ever became big draws) with the start-stop philosophy and the random burials after somebody gets over (Bryan at WM, Ryder and others) and you can see why nobody appearing like such a big deal anymore.
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