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post #6291 of 9175 (permalink) Old 09-28-2012, 06:33 AM
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Huge discussion on this week. The entire story this week was that Punk was all over the show, in every key segment and they did the least amount of viewers for a non-holiday RAW since 97. Along with what was probably, Top 5 worst overruns in the history of wrestling overruns. The strongest point here was a big Mick Foley return which is why his segment did decent and everything else bombed. Extremely low numbers but exactly what you would expect from the breakdown.
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To be honest I don't see anyone approaching Cena's level for a really long time.

It's crazy to think that a few years ago we had a roster consisting of 7-8 full-time Cena's (HBK, HHH, Taker, Rock, Austin, Angle, etc).

Also, I'd still say Orton is a bigger draw atm than Punk (not saying much either way).
He is and that's because he's much more valuable to the mass audience who saw him as a Top guy and leading attraction for almost a decade, even when he wasn't booked in a real feud for almost a year now, he still gets the biggest pops on his connection alone. That's why they're not turning him heel until Sheamus gets to his level as a brand carrier. Don't see the reason for all the Orton/Punk talk, they're in completely different calibers, one is the guy who main evented house shows for 9 years in a row, drew big on PPVs, drew big on TV(Alone, yes, HHH got into the program with him in 2009 because he was so hot, not the other way around, the biggest segments of the program were Orton and Vince in Chicago, and a Orton/Shane match after NWO. And Orton also did it on many years before that, huge success with Hardy in 2008), main evented WMs, was in a program with almost every Top star in the last 15 years, one of the biggest WWE draws on the road for 00-09(Top 8)and already had a legendary career to a guy who is booked as "top guy" for less than a year, never a difference maker, was in the mid card for most of his time including his "top guy" year with most of it as a completely forgettable run. Some people confused who gets currently more attention on TV to the overall career. These two guys aren't comparable in any way. People weren't saying that X-Pac was a bigger star than Arn Anderson for example just because he got more attention on TV at times as part of his Wolfpack run in 1997. It's all in perspective.

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As I showed, not comparing both careers because its not really fair, he had a huge cast support. Orton in 2009 lost viewers in the overrun with Triple H, and the show as a whole gained a lot, Orton never gained over a million alone, he had the full support by other big stars such as Trips, Batista, Cena, Vince, Shane, Steph, Flair, Donald Trump all of those guys are the real reason as the breakdowns can easily prove it. If Raw today had Batista, Trips, Lesnar with guys like Punk and Cena, I dont think ratings will be the same. So you can't put the blame on Punk when he needs those guys to help gain viewers within the show. I just used logic, and facts.


Edited: those are Orton numbers as a WWE champion in 2010.

September 20-24 2.8
9/27 – 10/1 2.75 - the lowest in that year, and the highest was Batista as a champion with 3.8, it just proves my point.

October 4-8 3.35
October 11-15 2.9
October 18-22 3.1
October 25-29 3.07
November 1-5 3.26
November 8-12 3.1
November 15-19 +++3.05

Thats lower than any champion in that year of Raw.

And those are from 2011 when he was the WHC champion on SD:


May 2-6 1.74
May 9-13 1.72
May 16-20 1.92
May 23-27 1.83
5/30 – 6/3 1.77
June 6-10 1.79
June 13-17 1.73
June 20-24 1.72
6/27-7/1 1.63 - the lowest in that year. I don't know why I'm not shocked.
July 4-8 1.73
July 11-15 1.72
July 18-22 1.89 - Christain won the title.
July 25-29 2.02 - Christian as a champion, lol Orton even Christian. Christian rocks by the way.
Aug. 1-5 1.81
August 8-12 1.83
August 15-19 1.86 - Orton got the title back.
August 22-26 1.78 - Orton strikes again.

And when Mark "Ratings" Henry got the title, it got between 1.9 to 2.26 (which was the highest that year). Orton big Draw my ass, as this proves he's not.

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IMO, its unfair to compare Orton's 2009 push with that of punk. Orton's push was extremely well planned and booked, starting with Rumble 2009 with HHH being a part of the final four and Orton eliminating him as a heel. And then the feb ppv No way out, his match against Shane Mcmahon, HHH becoming the WWE champion on the same night .. it was all well planned ahead and executed perfectly. It was also the first time they acknowledged HHH's real life relationship with Vince and Stephanie on-screen. All that played a key role in the success of the whole program. The feud itself was extremely intense and personal. Punk's push was largely rushed with no proper planning and pay-off. It was like they didnt know how to proceed with the angle, the week to week booking clearly didnt help. I remember a report at the time that said there was 6 different scripts at one point. The biggest mistake they ever did with the program was bringing him back too early to pop a good buyrate for Summerslam. Also, it should be noted that Orton's peak was wrestlemania season, the program itself peaked with Mcmahons/HHH vs Legacy/Orton brawl on the go home show which did a 4.1 overrun. Punk's push happened suddenly outta no where, in the middle of the summer starting with the shoot, got rushed and fizzled out before you could even figure out the whole storyline.

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Is big show actually a bigger draw than Punk? Lsat time his match with Cena in the main event drew over million viewers and the PPV no way out outdrew last year buyrate.

Is he really a bigger draw? Just wondering.
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RAW is a three hour show that isn't very good. It's tough to make people stick around for a three hour show, even when it is good, and it's impossible to do when it's not. That's why the third hour continually tanks. It's simple, people. You don't need a 5,000 word thesis on how your ARCH ENEMY wrestler X is to blame. Christ.
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RAW is a three hour show that isn't very good. It's tough to make people stick around for a three hour show, even when it is good, and it's impossible to do when it's not. That's why the third hour continually tanks. It's simple, people. You don't need a 5,000 word thesis on how your ARCH ENEMY wrestler X is to blame. Christ.
This, I don't get how some of the people on this site don't get that. Wrestling isn't in a boom period anymore and to casual fans it's just BORING.
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Punk in highest segments of show = Punk at fault for entire show. This thread never fails. The fucking brilliance.






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RAW is a three hour show that isn't very good. It's tough to make people stick around for a three hour show, even when it is good, and it's impossible to do when it's not. That's why the third hour continually tanks. It's simple, people. You don't need a 5,000 word thesis on how your ARCH ENEMY wrestler X is to blame. Christ.
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LOL how many more pages does it take to say Cm Punk cant DRAW its the same thing every week Ratings marks vs Punk marks will it ever end lol
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