Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
I really don't see why any of these numbers are cause for celebration or proof that somebody draws tbh. The highest point of the show only had 4.2 million people watching. 4.2 million. That's fucking awful. Yes, Punk/Foley at 9pm had a great gain and it was a great segment but really, all they did was get back the people who left in the slot before them. 3.3 mill to 4.2 million. The good thing is that they came back of course but it sort of takes the sting away when you put it like that. Outside of the opener which has been the only thing doing consistently well for the past few weeks now, for that part of the show at least, every thing else bombed. That breakdown is horrific. They lost viewers all night pretty much and didn't even get them back in their usual numbers for the main segments. The overrun is just...I don't even know. Seems like the third hour has made the ending to the show redundant now because nobody is tuning in to watch whether it's Cena, Punk or whoever. 10pm did horribly which seems to be the trend now it seems. The 3 hour format has really killed their ability to get any gains on the level that they would usually expect. The last thing that did well at 10pm iirc was Trips retirement which had over 5 million viewers and gained over 600k based on him alone and was the highest point of the show. That's somebody who draws, who is a draw and who has been doing so at the highest level for a very long time as a legitimate star attraction that the vast majority of fans want to see.
I don't see how anybody can go calling Punk a draw based off these numbers tbh. It's actually making me lol. Least watched Raw in over 5 years, Punk's a draw!! Forget the fact that 9pm did well and look at the overall picture instead of wetting your pants over 4.2 million viewers. I personally will not call CM Punk a draw until he proves on a consistent basis that he is and I really don't see how anybody, other than his marks of course, can say it either. Any time he has done well he has done so with a legend, never on his own. Don't you find that coincidental? Even Miz has gained over 1 million viewers on his name alone. I take nothing away from that Punk/Foley promo btw. The credit goes to both of them because it was great stuff, from both of them and deserved to be the high point of the night because it was for me. But I don't see that segment doing half as good as it did if it were just Punk by himself. You have to look at things in context. When Punk loses viewers at 10pm it's brushed under the rug. When he gains at 9pm he's a mega draw. It's the hypocrisy that gets me tbh.
Kane/DB sucking in the ratings is crap. I really enjoy those segments and think they're hilarious but they clearly aren't doing the business as the past few weeks have shown.
And I'm not letting Cena off the hook here either. He didn't appear for the entire show and they promoted him doing so at the end. They also promoted Punk coming out to confront him during Punk/Foley too. The result was pitiful. For the main feud to not even be able to get over a 3.0 overrun is just shocking and it's a terrible reflection on the program itself. Something clearly just isn't clicking here. The difference is, Cena can fall back on the fact that he has drawn at the highest level on a consistent basis. We all know he is a draw but the pattern in recent times has shown that he isn't as consistent as he used to be. Punk on the other hand, he has nothing to fall back on. That's why Cena is able to get somewhat of a free pass I suppose. I'll still hold him to account though. 2.74 for an advertised John Cena appearance sucks balls plain and simple.
The only thing left to consider is the fact that the football game had a huge number. That doesn't absolve them of fault though. If they want to compete with that every week then they need to produce a television product that can. Getting their audience back up to a regular 5 million every week wouldn't be a bad place to start. Right now they can't even get 4.